Israel attacks on HAMAS - Is there a lesson to be learnt for India?

For the past couple of days, reactions are pouring in from all over the world for Israel's attacks on the Gaza strip. Two reactions, in particular, caught my attention.

First, from the Palestinian President.

"We talked to them (Hamas) and we told them 'please, we ask you, do not end the truce. Let the truce continue and not stop' so that we could have avoided what happened."

Then, from India.

"While India is aware of the immediate cross-border provocations resulting from rocket attacks particularly against targets in southern Israel, it urges an immediate end to the use of force against Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip that has resulted in large numbers of casualties."

While the Palestinian President, someone who has watched the events that unfolded over the past few days from close quarters, has squarely blamed Hamas, Indian politicians are still trying to win over everyone by maintaining their so called 'diplomatic stance' in the Middle East affairs.

So, let me get this straight. India wants Israel to stop attacking? India wants Israel to start 'peace dialogue' with Hamas? Is there a meaning for the term peace when your opponent doesn't believe in it?

Basically, India wants Israel to follow its lead. Let the terrorists attack. Let them kill thousands of civilians. Let them attack at will. Let them terrorize the shit out of the common folks in the country. The government should only 'talk', and not 'act'. Bravo.

I'm glad that Israel is not being ruled by a bunch of sissies.

 

Only problem I see here is that you guys don't get one thing and you will never get it: organizations like Hamas is needs chaos and violence to exists and grow. Without chaos Hamas will disapear.
I wouldn't bet single buck that this Israeli action will make Hamas stop doing what they were doing until now and it wil not destroy Hamas.
It's not like Hamas will say tommorow: "Wow, this blitz is awesome – we'd better recognise the state of Israel, fall in line with the Palestinian Authority, lay down our weapons and pray we are taken prisoner and locked up indefinitely and support a new American 'peace process' in the Middle East!" (quote taken from other author article)
It's just neverending cirle of violence and it has nothing to do with being sissy or not.

 

Yeah, India needs to learn many things from Israel.

For starter,
1) How about start to value Indian lives.
2) How about upgrading your police force with better equipment and training.
3) How about Turning the useless intelligence agencies to something as a quarter of MOSSAD.
4) How about securing your important border check points.
5) How about stop playing victim and blaming Pakistan for every shit, find and fix your own loopholes.

I know for many Indian, my post is bitter, but so is truth, my friend, so is truth..

 

it is amazing that the brutal attack launched by Israel has supporters outside US and Israel. Hamas may be doing wrong, but Israel can't just start killing innocent Palestinians! Seems like the worth of 300 innocent Palestinians is much less than the 300 innocent Indians who were killed in Mumbai!

 

Are you glad Nazi Germany was not ruled by a bunch of "sissies"?

 

Well in this case Hamas are hiding among civilians inside cities. In the India-Pakistan case the terrorists have their camps and whatever outside cities. So India can certainly attack those camps!

 

My question is simple. How can you think of having a 'peace dialogue' with a group that is determined to erase the State of Israel from the world map?

 

Yeah, India needs to learn many things from Israel.

For starter,
1) How about start to value Indian lives.

True.

2) How about upgrading your police force with better equipment and training.

True.

3) How about Turning the useless intelligence agencies to something as a quarter of MOSSAD.

True.

4) How about securing your important border check points.

True.

5) How about stop playing victim and blaming Pakistan for every shit, find and fix your own loopholes.

Not true. Pakistan is responsible for a number of attacks on India. We need to accept it. To fight an enemy, you need to recognize him first.

I know for many Indian, my post is bitter, but so is truth, my friend, so is truth..

Unlike most Indians, I'm not a rabid nationalist or something. I call a spade a spade no matter what.

 

How can you have peace dialogue with a state that already has erased the people of Palestine from their homeland? You're very hypocritical and totally avoided my question that:

Are you glad Nazi Germany was not ruled by a bunch of "sissies"?

 

No, I'm not glad. I hate Hitler. Now, is that okay?

So, by your argument, you say that Israel is at fault. I say Hamas is at fault. Going by this logic, both sides are at fault, aren't they? Then, how do you choose to defend one side and claim that the other side is wrong?

 

All terrorist in israel or in Pakistan are INDIAN

 

Yet another gem from a Madrassa-educated rational thinker. Way to go.

 

If you are indian then i can't say any thing.


But if you are not from india then my above post was reply of a comment.

 

My nationality doesn't matter. At all. It was your inability to post something related to this particular thread that ticked me off.

 

OK, then


What is this? you have posted this above

 

But you would like Hitler if he burned Muslims, right? I understand.

 

I'm not sure if it's just you or if it's the strategy taught by your religion. You guys just can't stop coming up with weird assumptions. I would have hated Hitler even if he had burnt Muslims or people from any other race/religion/country for that matter.

Going by your logic, I guess you like Hitler because the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem wanted to join hands with him to exterminate Jews from the Arab land?

 

The Palestinians haven't been earsed from their homeland. In 1947 the eastern half of Palestine-Trans-Jordan was renamed to Jordan. Jordan is the Palestinian state. Just for your information Jordan is the name of the river not a people and trans means both sides of it. The Jews have offered to give 90%of the West Bank and some terrority in Israel for an additional Palestinian homeland.

 

See, the matter is simple. Even if terrorists have safe house in Pakistan, how come they get so easily in India? If Indian security forces are capable enough to stop these elements from entering Indian soil, then every Indian is safe.

Yes you certainly need to recognise the enemy, but mere recognition isn't gonna help. What Indian government, people and security agencies have learned from past attacks? Dare I say, Nothing.
For last few years every metro, save for Chennai and Kolkata have been attacked by terrorists. After every attack, I see the same sing and dance drama, lot of crying and whining, blaming on Pakistan and what not. But any single concrete step toward prevention of attacks, disaster management, anything at all? Nope, nothing. There is no willpower to act.

After every attack, people get angry, Media goes all gung ho, politicians and media start the blame game on Pakistan, Pakistan denies any hand, The government plays victim, police arrests few pawns and claims that they cracked the case. They beautifully describe every freaking details of the terrorist's plan with the same points a) Terrorists were trained in Pakistan b) The mastermind of terror attacks are hidden in Pakistan c) Pakistan is not co-operating d) We have arrested all the culprits and investigating their links

Amazingly, all well trained, hardened, ruthless, blood thirsty terrorists start singing as soon as they get arrested.

Then everyone forgets about it, gets busy with daily life and BAM!! another attack..

Mate, as I see it, Pakistan is not the one to blame, blame Indian government, security forces, and intelligence for being so impotent.

I Appreciate it.

 

I agree with everything you've said. I think this post of mine will explain my stance on this issue better. Check it out.