Mexican, American, and Canadian Super State?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by yaffer, Jun 16, 2006.

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    How many of you were aware that this stuff is in the works? Does this bother anyone? I thought the folks who run our country swear to uphold and defend the constitution of the united states of american not north america. i fear that people won't get excercised about this until it's too late.
     
    yaffer, Jun 16, 2006 IP
  2. megahertza

    megahertza Peon

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    Sounds to me a waste of time. I thought the US government didn't give a #### about Mexico
     
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    US government gives a shit about everything :D

    /JK

    Why is this neccessary? Well China are seeking for extra landmarks(Taiwan etc), Russia is going to unite with Kazakhstan and Belarus which will rebirth Soviet Union which is very Co-Operative with China and will probably merge together. This will create a Supercontinent country never ever seen before. Therefore, this moves needs to be counterstriked.
     
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    A lot of the CFR report is misinterpetted, but there are definitely people eager to do something to bring some sort of cohesion to the Americas. There's many people pushing for an Amero currency, that would disperse in Mexico, Canada, and the USA...I don't know if that would happen.

    Frankly, I think most Americans aren't going to buy into this new world order crap....we like our soveverighty, and anyone in their right mind wouldn't join up with the socialist havens of the world without some common sense creep up in their mind. Canada's really not a bad place or with bad people, but I think we have two different cultures that like our separation in government, and we wish to stay that way.

    I wouldn't worry, but if you see any huge shift in the parties (on either side)...watch out, they may try to pull a fast one on you.
     
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    Think about your kids, in the future they might serve in Chinese labour camp and Washington will be flattened if this doesn't take place..
     
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    I don't know what australia is going to do then. can't exactly move out country next to a towards the america's
     
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    If Canada or Mexico ever get authority over people in America...then we won't have a military to defend America. If we decided to make an EU out of the Americas... the american political culture would die, and we'd be easy pickings for anyone to take-up. Our 'don't tread on me' mentality keeps us from being another loser EU or latin america. A hundred million gun owners in America will not allow anyone to fuck with their 'god-given' right to exist freely...that's what the rest of the pussy-ass world lacks.

    That's why I don't fear China or anyone...the only thing I fear is an eroded American culture...where our men become feminine bitches, and we welcome everyone in as equal. There are men of character and intelligience, and there are men that don't belong here. Fuck the tired masses, I want the best and only the best. Enough of this soft samuri shit.
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    The 65' legislation on immigration was bad enough, and has done so much in shifting our political atmosphere to even consider such a stupid act of joining up politically with others.

    Your concerns are far too out there chief, and even if they're to occur in any fashion or manner, China would find itself alone...and economically unviable.
     
    Rick_Michael, Jun 18, 2006 IP
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    hmm look at the European Union, what's wrong with 3 neighboring countries working together on some serious issues?
     
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    Because Mexico's ran by tyrants, and Canada's 'fantasy' government only exists due to it's high amounts of oil and it's rejection of a military.

    I do trust Canada enough to make coalitions on certain things, but in no way or manner should our legislative authority be integrated. That's what treaties are for and they require high percentages to pass Congress...always coming second to our constitution.
     
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    joaquin Well-Known Member

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    Hey there's some Mexicans here.

    We are next to each other, so that statement is pretty ignorant.

    Why not try reading the papers more often, huh? Corruption here is frequent, but so is in the whole world. We are getting out of it. Slowly, but Mexico is improving. Thanks for that generalization, dumbass.

    I can totally agree with that. I am seeing it EVERYWHERE. Men care about their nose's shape. We are heading to some sort of unisex shit. It's sad, really. I am WITH equal rights, but I am against women trying to be like men and vice versa. That stuff is nasty.

    Enough ranting.
     
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    Not that this was addressed to me but...

    It's not like when people speak of Mexico they actual think of Mexicans. Most people think of your gov. And the guy speaking to you is in Australia, so he's not next to you.

    He's blessed with a vast ocean as a natural barrier.

    Nothing in comparison to Mexico.

    It's a fact your gov sucks at life. I'm not talking about your people...given they had a proper enviroment, your economy could be just as good as Canada is to their people. Now you have a small percentage of rich families and a vast layer of poverty.

    It's not a generalization it's fact that your gov is ran by tyrants.

    "You can't make democracy with antidemocratic tools. If the police are corrupt and no one believes in the public prosecutor crimes will not be reported. Only 1.5 million of the 4.5 million crimes are reported to the police by the people. This gives you an idea of the lack of confidence. And 92% of the 1.5 million crimes that are reported are not prosecuted. That system obviously doesn't work."--2005

    Muchless your Constitution makes foreigners whom legally come there, a 2nd class citizen permanently ie they can throw you out when ever they want and take your shit. That just doesn't spring trust into the many business owners that would love to be a part of your country.

    I'll say your economy is growing, but it heavily depends on the oil industry and recently remittance as a form of funds...both in the long-term have very volatile grounds ie your oil might not be invested in enough or your remittance may stop coming at one point. Your police and judicial system is damn near worthless and needs to be recreated or incredibly reformed; while your gov need to respect all those whom come to your country legally...with full property/individual rights.

    They absolutely can't end up a nationalizing asshole like they once were.

    Personally you can talk-shit about America's gov if you want, and I won't take that personal (because I don't like many things, either); so realize I'm not speaking about you.

    Well, my idea had more to do with protecting individual rights and preserving our government by not forgetting to never let-up on the enemy. The enemy being the bend-over status culture that believes it can tell you how to live and still survive all those whom aren't so naive.
     
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    oh no, Mexico is on the bottom of the barrel when it comes to corruption. And you are not getting out of it. I've been hearing that for 25 years and it's only getting worse. Read the papers about what? About everyone wanting to get out of Mexico? Gimme a break and stop trying to bullshit people.
     
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    Maybe next time try reading the title of this thread? Thank you.

    I have to agree and disagree. If we begin comparing governments, then Mexico is indeed a very very corrupt one. Your statement implies that Mexico is the most corrupt country in the world by far, which is not only ignorant but stupid. This is nothing personal, I am just attacking your argument. Accordingly, Mexico is that 70th or so corrupt country in the world. I read that not too long ago. That number sucks, but so does your argument.

    That's pretty ignorant. I don't even want to discuss it. Maybe it's just me and my little pretty town, but things seem to be improving a lot around here. Mexico City could be A LOT better and there's no doubt about it, but getting worse? Nah. And why would I try to bullshit you? It's not like I care anyway and I am sure you don't care either so let's just leave it at that.


    Last thing, you cannot say that ALL of our government is constituted of tyrants, just like we can't say that ALL of you voted for war. I don't even think there's a comparison there.

    I'm not trying to offend anyone here, I am just giving my own points of view from living INSIDE Mexico...
     
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    I didn't imply it was the most corrupt country in the world; your interpetation is just in your mind. If I wanted to say that, I would assert it with some sort of data, which I didn't... red herring?

    One can take a look the UN and readily understand your a step above most hell-holes (which isn't saying much)...isn't like I would consider Zimbawee as a vacation spot, although certain parts of Mexico I would.


    Lmao...
    What part, the part you created in your mind? You could dissect the parts of it that you find as 'sucking' or perhaps you just want to use logical fallacies to appeal to particular points you've failed to address. You act as though it's wrong for me to say the truth about your gov (pride?), and then you tuck underneath the self-created arguement that it isn't the most corrupt (when no one is really debating that), to blanket the rest of my arguement as null and void.


    Back to the original objective:

    Again, why is it wrong to say your gov is ran by tyrants?

    At what point do you say my judicial system or police force lacks credibility? Is it wrong to think that these very fundamental organization require checks and balances, clarity, and that the lack of having consistant service in such means there's a great deficiency in honest leaders? The level of crime that's committed and not prosecuted leads me to believe your leaders co-exist among criminals, and I can't think of any other better description than tryant when the gov complies with criminals.
     
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    Original quote:

    "Because Mexico's ran by tyrants, and Canada's 'fantasy' government only exists due to it's high amounts of oil and it's rejection of a military."


    Where did I say 'ALL'? Creating your own interpetation? Do I really have to say 'because a great deal of (but not all) Mexico is ran by tyrants?' Sounds a bit silly.

    In America, the most corruptive police are near drug infested areas. It just so happens that drugs in Mexico are extremely profitable, and given the way the gov prosecutes crime it's a welcoming business. If America was all a ghetto then it would probably have the same amount of corruption in the local leadership.

    When it comes down to it, the local police and judicial system are all that count. If and when they don't prosecute killers, thieves, rapists and such, then they're either extremely forgiving or absolutely corrupt.
     
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    It is called the Pan American Union. It is already in the works and yes, it will merge all of Latin America with the US and Canada. This is the real reason why Bush wants the illegals to come over the border:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_American_Union

    This is the real reason why Bush wants to pass his guest worker program. We will all be one big, unhappy, broke, enslaved family.
     
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    This thing about the creation of a Union between America, Mexico and Canada is very old. I think I must have heard about it some 10 years ago. The new world order will prevail no matter what anyone says because it is already under way.
     
    Emperor, Jun 25, 2006 IP