I do remember your post about it. Did you posted any link to source? I would like to check it again. And yes, civilians are always those who sufer the most. During the war in my country I had 10 refuges in my two bedroom house. And my town was filled with refuges who fled without anything. What was the question? I missed it.
I will try to find it again, dont know if I can, but i think it was about yitzak rabin expressing regret for isreal helping to create hamas. I believe that my old post talked about creating religious movement that would be created as a counter to Arafats nationalistic movemement. Rabin was a great man and if he were allowed to live there would have been peace between the 2 sides by now, but he was liquidated. That was truely a sad day for both isrealis and palestinians. http://www.amconmag.com/article/2007/feb/12/00017/ i will try to find more later. Hamas first emerged in 1987. It was formed from various charities based in the Palestinian territories with links to the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist movement born in Egypt in the 1920s from which many of today’s radical Islamic sects, including al-Qaeda, have sprung. Israel allowed these Islamic charities to gain strength and influence in Palestinian areas, hoping that they would counter the influence of secular Palestinian resistance movements. Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of Hamas until his death by Israeli air strike in 2004, formed Hamas as the military wing of his group the Islamic Association, which was licensed by Israel 10 years earlier. During that period, when there was open conflict between Israeli forces and Palestinian nationalists, Israeli officials gave the nod to and even indirectly funded the establishment of Islamic societies in the West Bank and Gaza that might weaken the Palestine Liberation Organization. Martha Kessler, a senior analyst for the CIA, has said, “[W]e saw Israel cultivate Islam as a counterweight to Palestinian nationalism.†The very Islamic groups “cultivated†by Israel in the 1970s became Hamas in the 1980s, which went on to become Israel’s biggest nightmare in the 1990s. It remains so today.
By that logic Palestinians will pay for their use of terrorism. According to you the Palestinians deserve the price they pay for using terrorism. You keep saying one thing for Israel and another for the Palestinians.
He's islamic, like iggysick and the rest of them. Some day, I keep thinking a muslim will come along and say "those damn savage Palestinians started crap again by firing rockets into Israel. This is not islam, islam is peace, yada yada, etc." But nope, they wait till Israel responds to the sixth century neanderthals who are just following the quran and hadiths and doing what good muslims are supposed to do, then start a pity party about how cruel Israel is for responding back to the savages. Such backwards mentality. Then, of course, there's always the fence sitters who will say "both sides are wrong," but they never seem to muster the idea that the pali's were wrong, again, first by starting and that Israel has no choice but to respond to their savagery. Honestly, Israel ought to just rid the remaining occupying muslims there and take back all their lands. It is their land, after all. They were there long before islam was invented and since their "guests" don't seem to have the intelligence or desire to make something for themselves, other than evil...just oust them. Time and again, islam proves it is not the "religion of peace and tolerance" by these very actions. They cannot live in peace and the pali savages don't want peace, because it goes against their religious teachings. Pop quiz time: How many times is Israel referenced in the quran? How many times is Palestine referenced in the quran?
Seriously, that's like the peak of hypocrisy. How about all your fellow Palestinians? Hamas, hezbollah.. a bunch of other muslims in other countries? Don't tell me you haven't seen the Palestinians dancing in joy on their building roofs when 9/11 happened in US.
Correct and when both sides can start showing compassion and empathy towards each other , that is when true peace and love will occur. Until then both sides are acting like how typical human beings have acted throughout human history. When will we make that breakthrough as a species and change.
Here comes the fifth columnist. While American politicians sell their country interests for profit, the not so smart one do it for nothing.
Dear friends, this arguments will never ends. A Terrorist to some is a freedom fighter to others. You cannot just think you are all right in each and everything you say there is some truth and some non truth what is truth to you could be a non truth to other and vis versa. Preach peace in the world don't preach hate. We all believe in the same God. And even for those that don't it's still ok. Remember one's freedom ends when starts someone else's freedom PEACE
So according to you Palestinians don't pay price for it huh? Are you serious? Should we count how many innocent civilians got killed on Palestinian side? Get serious! Can you please stop with that "everyone who don't blindly support zionists is a islamic" BS? I know that you don't give a shit about facts and all you do is spreading hate against whole religion and only God (if there is any) knows why are you allowed to post your filth here but this is getting so damn annoying. If you posts are not hate ones I don't know how them hate posts looks like.
Exactly the opposite. Unfortunately, some innocent Palestinians are paying a price for the terrorists in their midst. My point was that you said Israel deserves to pay the price. Do you hold the Palestinians to the same standard?
Let him post his BS. Those are not harmful anymore because his ideas and his hero Bush has already been thrown in the garbage bin of the history. I used to think of him as a hateful person but now I only think of him as a pathetic person who is desperately holding to his false picture of the events while the walls of his imaginary world collapsing all around him. You can say the same about the other side. Unfortunately, some innocent Israelis are paying a price for the terrorists in their leadership.
Where did I said that Israel deserves to pay the price? Can you quote me on that? Thanks. My nation have one saying: Tko sije vjetar žnjet će oluju and in raw translation it means: He who seeds wind will harvest storm. Got it now?
Yeah, we all have that saying. What goes around comes around - you reap what you sow, etc., etc. That is why I have little sympathy for the members of Hamas who were killed, as it is a direct result of their attacks on Israel. I do have great sympathy for the innocent Palestinians who are victims of Hamas' terror.