Israeli air attacks on Gaza kill 155

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Rage, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. iggysick

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    #101
    And,of course, you would claim that Sinai isn't occupied at all, right? :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Al-Mujahid

    Al-Mujahid Banned

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    #102
    You trying to say that Israel didn't try to occupy Sinai ha ? Sinai is an Israeli zone ha ?
     
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    #103
    I just see a brother (Palestinian policeman) who was saying 'Laa ilaaha illa Allah' before his death, i hope he goes to cenneh, i hope Allah will help all the brothers and sisters.
     
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    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #104
    Alright seriously man... Sinai is under Egyptian control now, what's wrong with you?
     
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    #105
    its up by 195 Killed Terrorists now, thats good.
     
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    #106
    @Uploas : whatever you said, That is not readable arabic ;) "That's not even a sentence"

    and guys, I'll get you some vids from Al Jazeera "An Arabic News Channel" to those who are saying all of them are terrorists,

    %50+ of the victims are kids and women,

    Will take some time to record the vids and upload them.

    @st1905: I saw him too, He was a Policeman, NOT a Hamas' Member !!

    Have you seen the 15+ dead policemen on the ground ?!
     
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  7. iggysick

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    #107
    He said it would be still part of Israel so I said that than occrding to his post here he would claim that Sinai isn't occupied at all. Get it?
     
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  8. AdsInfluencer

    AdsInfluencer Well-Known Member

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    #108
    So many rockets are shot to israel everyday?
    This is to be expected
     
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  9. browntwn

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    #109
    Israel gets the same reaction when it responds so it might as well do as much damage to Hamas as possible. The Arab world will call it a Holocaust if 10 terrorist die or if 100 die. Israel should respond and make it clear that no attacks on its civilians by terrorist in Gaza will be tolerated. Anything less would be the faliure of the Israeli state to defend its people and its country from repeated attacks.

    If the Palestinian people want peace, they will need to stop Hamas. If they continue to support attacks on Israel by Hamas then they will have to deal with the consequences.

    I feel badly for the Palestinians who simply want to live in peace and who do not want Hamas as their representatives. They will need to fight even harder for a just Palestinian leadership who can guide them to a peaceful state along side Israel.

    The notion that any state would simply ignore daily rocket attacks across its border is crazy. No state, even those condemning Israel's actions, would tolerate what Israel puts up with. Frankly, I am amazed at the restraint Israel showed before taking action. Let us all hope Israel completely routs Hamas and a new power emerges to represent the Palestinian people not the Arab world's desire to push Israel into the sea.
     
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  10. iggysick

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    #110
    So basicly what are you saying is that Palestinians should elect those ones who will accept Israeli terms for peace right? Hamas was elected by Palestinans and there's a reason why they were elected. You can't judge those people from your point of view and doing that day after day after day.

    There were too many chances for peace but when you talk about peace agrement on one hand and keep building setlements on disputed land on the other hand that shows how mcuh you are honest in those peace talks.
     
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    #111
    God Bless Israel
     
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    #112
    Oh and btw, I don't see this action as plan to stop rocket attacks on Israel. For that you need ground operation and everyone with a brain knows that. This is simple and brutal revenge and nothing more: an eye for an eye, teeth for a teeth and it will lead to same reaction from Palestinian side and again it won't be attacks on those who doing this action.
    The blood circle will continue to the end of the world. You killed mine so now I will kill yours.
     
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  13. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #113
    Not at all. Palestinians can try to get whatever they want, they just can't use violence to get it. Simple enough.

    Hamas, has rejected the previous peace deals made on behalf of the Palestinians by their elected government and refuses to recognize Israel - what possible peace is Hamas striving for?

    Hamas is simply a terrorist entity, elected or not, has no legitimacy.

    (You bring up Israel continuing to build settlements in violation of peace deals - but the Palestinians kept attacking Israel in violation of its peace deals. Both sides violated the agreements. They should have both kept trying for peace. Neither side has incentive to keep its end of the deal when the other is not.)
     
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    #114
    I can't agree with you when you saying that Palestinians can't use violence to get what they want. Without violence your nation wouldn't exist today and Jews used violence to get their state. Those two are just examples and nothing more and I could use 10s of other examples as well.
    If you take something by someone by force be ready on other side to use violence to try to get it back. What you are saying is like: yeah, we used terrorism and shit to get what we want and now when we have that can you please stop using same shit so that we can enjoy in what we have.

    There was periods without violence (and you'll agree with me that you can't put all Palestinian groups in same bag and that one can't be responsible for action of others) but it didn't stopped Israel to keep showing what are their intentions with West Bank.

    And I do truly believe that Israel did helped in forming and making stronger Hamas because while there is organization like Hamas is Israel will have excuse for not making fair peace with Palestinians. The day when Hamas goes away will be toughest day for Israel because they will finally be forced to say do they have intentions to leave West Bank or not. As long as there's violence they are not forced to do so.
     
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  15. imad

    imad Peon

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    #115

    Actually, Israel is a terrorist illegal entity, who failed even to respect what they say about the peace process and specially settlements building, their roots in terrorism are not new as been discussed several times before, and what they always use as excuse for not reaching an agreement with the Palestinians is nothing except repeated propaganda that been debunked several times,

    they always have something that prevent them from achieving peace, as they always declare, when the fact is they do not want peace, at least not the just peace that will give Palestinians their right, not that only, they expect that Palestinians drop arms, and accept whatever they dictate on them, and they accept to keep assassinating them and indiscriminately kill them without any reaction from Palestinians,

    before any suicide bombing happen Israel was killing civilians, even before Hamas or Hezballah or PLO has been established, such organizations have been established to liberate the country from the occupier, not the opposite, if there was no occupation, there won't be such organizations, opposite to what Israel try always to say, if there were no such organizations, there will be peace, peace was not there long before any of these organizations been established, what was there excuse then? what was their excuse when FATAH was in power, or when UN issued more than 60 resolutions addressing Israel and its illegal occupation, which none of them has been implemented?

    when FATAH was in power was it any different? no it was always as these images speak:

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    They kill everybody who believe in UN resolutions, and international law that Israel failed to implement during the past 60 years, and so they do not face the international criticism, they cover it in a way to show that they are defending themselves when they actually the aggressors, as that young man they killed in cold blood, then later tried to fake it as if he was suicide bomber.

    Gaza as an open air prison, and occupied territory, will keep fighting for their freedom.
     
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  16. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #116
    Then stop bitching and crying when Israel responds in kind. You can't have it both ways. You can't say the Palestinians can use violence to achieve their goals but Israel is not allowed to respond. At least be intellectually honest if that is your view.
     
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    #117
    LOL, you ran out of words? It's OK, you probably didn't get any education except: "Kill the forfeits","Slaughter the Jews and Christians","Who is killing innocent people is a hero, a Shahid, he will get 70 virgins in Heaven"...
     
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    #118
    As always you need to lie to make a point. I would ask you to quote my posts where did I "bitch" and "cry" but it would be just waste of my time like it is always when talking to likes of you. Israel was created with terrorism and they are paying price for it and I see every single day Israelis and their supporters crying and bitching about it. Well, as I can see you will continue to bitch and cry until your last breath. :)
     
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    #119
    Its sad day for humanity to see civilians on both sides die:(
    On a side note, remember my posts on who helped to create hamas and why, and put this together with ron pauls talk about blowback.
     
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    #120
    If Hitler was alive he will join the Israel army and would be happy to live in Israel , I have never seen people that are happy that the human loss gets higher but now I see this and will never forget this.

     
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