Clickbank is NOT processing credit cards!

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by taraff1, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. #1
    I promote several products, and, on AVERAGE, over a years time they have converted around 1:25 to 1:40.

    Over the past 5 days I have had 1000 hops and a whopping 5 sales, a 1:200 conversion ratio. Doing some investigation (starting Friday) I noticed my few sales were ALL PayPal, previously had been 40% PayPal, 60% CC's.

    Friday night I tried to purchase a product with a valid credit card. As suspected, it was declined. Now this morning, I tried a different product, 3 valid Credit Cards (2 M.C., 1 VISA) and again all were declined. Tried PayPal and it went right through!

    This is a serious issue, even more so to those doing PPC I would imagine (I'm all organic and it still sucks).

    As usual, during down sales times, I work harder to get my sales back up, but this is frustrating. I have emailed Clickbank regarding the issue.

    I know many will say "Quit Bitc#ing", and I'm really not. Just bringing what MAY be the problem to everyone's attention.

    In the meantime, I urge ALL PUBLISHERS to put something to the affect of "PayPal is the Preferred Payment Method for ALL CREDIT CARD Orders" in bold, immediatly above their buy buttons. Try that for a day, and I think you will see a drastic increase in conversions.

    Jim
     
    taraff1, Dec 21, 2008 IP
  2. bl4ckmaN^

    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    On this side PDC is perfect. Paypal is excellent.
     
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  3. cylai

    cylai Peon

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    Some members suggest you change account.

    I suffer from decline in conversion too. I am promoting another program. Will tell you how it goes. !
     
    cylai, Dec 21, 2008 IP
  4. taraff1

    taraff1 Peon

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    My test purchases were made directly (or tried to be made) direct with the merchant. In other words, no affiliate hop was used.
     
    taraff1, Dec 21, 2008 IP
  5. rolf

    rolf Active Member

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    I've switched my product back to Paypal. I don't have any affiliates right now so won't matter. Clickbank is seriously pissing me off. They abuse their monopoly position.
     
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  6. getjimmy

    getjimmy Prominent Member

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    I had similar experience couple of days back,i tried to purchase from my mastercard and transaction was declined.
     
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  7. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

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    CB should be working 24/7 to fix this problem. This is ridiculous. What are they thinking? Not only are they losing money on each sale but eventually people are going to get pissed off with them and are going to try the alternatives.
     
    Zibblu, Dec 21, 2008 IP
  8. alexa_s

    alexa_s Peon

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    "Eventually"?!

    I think they're losing affiliates hand over fist at the moment.

    And no surprise there. :(
     
    alexa_s, Dec 21, 2008 IP
  9. terryd

    terryd Well-Known Member

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    As others have mentioned before it's probably their fraud detection being overzealous and tripping all the time.

    What ever the reason it still sucks but they don't seem to be too concerned about it.
     
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  10. Patchkaa

    Patchkaa Peon

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    I must say I havent noticed any problems with sales yet... I'm averaging 10 sales per day at the moment so things are lookimng good for me this xmas.
     
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  11. taraff1

    taraff1 Peon

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    Think of all the sales you'd have if (some or most) credit cards weren't being declined. It's not that I'm not happy with what I'm making as I'm still doing quite well, it's just wrong that were missing out on all these potential sales.
     
    taraff1, Dec 21, 2008 IP
  12. PixelMedia

    PixelMedia Greenhorn

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    Yup, tested it too... and got decline! :( also my sales fluctuation is funny, I have usually 3-5 sales in one day, but they all I am receiving in one time period , 1st sale (15:45), 2nd sale (15:47), 3rd sale (15:53) e.t.c and then all day no sales, it's really strange! Also It happens for my affiliates!
     
    PixelMedia, Dec 21, 2008 IP
  13. alexa_s

    alexa_s Peon

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    Exactly.

    Those are the key words that give away the fact that Clickbank's behaviour and whole concept of customer service really stink. Nothing is ever their fault. It's almost like talking to a bank. To get them to acknowledge in writing that they screwed up is just a complete impossibility. They need to be made to learn that they have competition.
     
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    wowhaxor Banned

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    Hmmm, I have CC sales today and yesterday. Maybe its your CC and fraud prevention? If you're trying to make a lot of purchases, especially diff cards, with your one IP they could be being blocked?
     
    wowhaxor, Dec 21, 2008 IP
  15. taraff1

    taraff1 Peon

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    From two different computers, two different homes, two different cities.

    I will say, in the past few hours I've gotten a visa and a mastercard sale from a product that I normall sell very few of. Just PayPal sales on my main product.

    Could be a product specific issue maybe?
     
    taraff1, Dec 21, 2008 IP
  16. AffiliateEsprit7

    AffiliateEsprit7 Peon

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    This seems to happen to affiliates all the time, I know it happens to me constantly. Affiliate accounts sporadically get flagged for "cc security breach" or something for several reasons:

    1.) A customer tried to sign up with an invalid or stolen cc
    2.) A customer attempted a hack through an affiliate link
    3.) An account has been flagged for having several buy attempts from one ip

    I understand the need for security but here's my problem: Flag the customer in question's IP, not our affiliate accounts!!!

    Far too many affiliates, including myself are losing money over this!!!! I am new to affiliate marketing & I spend 7-8hrs per day working to promote my products(& I'm a college student so all the time Im not using to study, party or see the gf, I'm working)

    & my income was $1,300 last month..& so far December has only yielded $467, and I have three times as many hops so far! Theres clearly a problem with cc processing.
     
    AffiliateEsprit7, Dec 21, 2008 IP
  17. HankL

    HankL Peon

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    So I can knock my competitor's affiliate accounts out by just pretending to make a purchase with a bogus credit card?

    Doesn't sound like much of a fraud detection system to me...

    Some fraud prevention is good, but this seems penny wise dollar foolish? What are the damages if a customer downloads an ebook they didn't pay for, as opposed to risking losing affiliates?

    Hank
     
    HankL, Dec 21, 2008 IP
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    So I'm pretty sure after reading this and the many other CB threads, it's pretty clear... CB's payment processing is junk right now. If you're going to promote CB products, don't do pay per click. It can't be trusted. At least with bum marketing it doesn't really cost you much other than time.
     
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  19. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

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    I hope you're right alexa. Maybe that will lead them to finally do something about their crap service.

    This sort of thing seems pretty common. I too experience strange fluctuations. Sometimes things will be going really great and then all of a sudden NOTHING for days. Then things will start going great again. I know I am not alone in this - It's a broken record in here as far as people experiencing things like this.

    What you describe makes a lot of sense as it would explain the strange behavior with weird sales. But it's hard for me to believe that CB would actually be so stupid to implement such a policy.
     
    Zibblu, Dec 21, 2008 IP
  20. AffilateRook1

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    I agree.. I was doing pretty well getting sales daily bla bla bla.. then 2 charge backs within the past few days(unfortunate thing is out of 100's of sales these are my first two), ever since then i have had zero sales days for a while, the other day I emailed CC support and today I got a sale again (1:7) Which is my usual conversion.. we'll see how it goes over the next few days I guess
     
    AffilateRook1, Dec 21, 2008 IP