I'd probably have to disagree, George. The notion of god "is." If so, the immanence of God is, or is not - God exists, or the notion is created. Since man is the only creature conscious enough (let's say, "for the sake of argument,") to posit immanence, it is a zero sum game. In that game, I'd offer, "does god exist, or did Man create him?" is the same thing as "is God, or is not God?" I mentioned Voltaire earlier...."If God did not exist, it would be necessary for Man to invent him." It's no longer necessary. But the void created by the Death of God has rent an ontological hole in our collective fabric. Man may have divined the absence of the divine, but our spiritual need, the dialectic: our clamoring for the empyrean, while forever entrapped in the primordial (our corporeal existence), remains.
Hmmm that's a possibility. But it's also makes more sense in my opinion to take the obvious two questions here and ask them separately. 1) Does God exist or not? 2) Did man create the idea of God or not. Whether or not man created the idea of God or not is a religious question. Man could very well have created God in the ideology (one of many?) that we know today but God could exist in a completely different way. Two separate paths of thought. Until proven otherwise, God is an idea, not an entity. The only thing determining whether man created God or not does is help us conclude how the idea of God was formed. Not his existence. To confuse the 2 in the way the question was posed in this thread just asking for misunderstandings and disagreements. One is a question of religion. And one is a question of logical possibility. And we've all seen what happens when you try and interject logic into a discussion about religion. What we've done here is tie them both into the same question. P.S. The very fact that there are SO MANY religions out there make it pretty plainly obvious to me that it is man made. But then, that's just me.
I agree, definitely that the concept of god is man made- just like every ideology, it is a product of the human mind. The only difference being that they claim divinity associated with theirs. Thus a god's actual existence depends on the chance that they are correct, an infinitely tiny chance. Human creation, nonexistent.
Any person who questions the wisdom of God or the existence of God is an idiot! I have been an atheist myself but God looks at all human beings as one. Apparently, we all tend to look at god in different angles (read different beliefs) God still creates Hindu, Muslim, Jewish and Christian babies. He's impartial unlike us. This might sound cynical from a guy who is very pro-Jewish and anti-muslim but we all live under the same sun and so all humans are his children irrespective of the religion they follow. So god created man! I think you are quoting Nietzsche who said thus: Which is it? Is man one of God's blunders or is God one of man's blunders?
actually, it was a quote from the book inherit the wind, about the scopes monkey trial. Although I find that I agree with Nietzsche more often than not.
lol, quite how humans continue this one particular delusion when we've let go all the rest now, fairies, goblins, loch ness monsters, yetis and the thousands of other Gods who've gone before this latest batch is totally beyond me its like as a race the majority of us have some need to lean on or blame someone or something else for events, and then the clever ones siezed on the opportunity and used to control the rest of the "believers' and here we are thousands of years later, people still kill each other over these damn fairy tales. "my imaginary friend is better than yours" lol.