Affiliate account success!

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by AffiliateEsprit7, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hey everyone!

    This is a rather long post I'm sorry. Please read it, it's worth it :)

    So far this week(until about 3hrs ago) I had made 10 sales in 3,100 hops, not a good conversion rate.

    I was suspicious because I had been making about 1sale for every 70 or 80 hops until this week. My traffic is LASER TARGETED & high quality.

    I thought there could be something wrong with my account.

    So tonight I created a new account & switched all my links..I got 2 sales in 84 hops!! After 3 whole days with no sales & a ton of hops!

    Could there be a problem with cb's credit card security system with some affiliate accounts??

    Maybe a customer tries to buy with an invalid cc & it unfairly flags that affiliate's account?

    What do you think has this happened to more people??
     
    AffiliateEsprit7, Dec 13, 2008 IP
  2. mill123

    mill123 Active Member

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    there are quite a few different threads about this already. CB's anti fraud system is pretty volatile as far as i can tell. only takes a small thing and bam, there go your sales for a day or so.
     
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  3. AffiliateEsprit7

    AffiliateEsprit7 Peon

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    more like 8 days
     
    AffiliateEsprit7, Dec 13, 2008 IP
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    ayork2413 Peon

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    does this only hurt the affiliate, or the publisher and the affiliate?
     
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    terryd Well-Known Member

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    Well it hurts both in the long run because if the person can't pay for the product then neither the affiliate or the vendor are going to get any money are they.
     
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  6. evelinawilliams007

    evelinawilliams007 Notable Member

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    It hurts both the affiliate and the publisher.. I have some doubts as well. I`ve been promoting a product lately which converted 1 : 200, now I haven`t seen a sale in weeks.

    I`m still not sure what is affecting it..
     
    evelinawilliams007, Dec 13, 2008 IP
  7. alexa_s

    alexa_s Peon

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    You're taking it with much more equanimity than I would be, I must say. I'd be working out that 2 sales from 84 hops equates to 74 sales from 3,100 hops and wondering where my other 64 sales went. I know, I know, it might not quite work out that way, and 84 is a small sample-size and all the rest of it, but you know what I mean: a big chunk of money has gone down the drain here thanks entirely to Clickbank. Why do people tolerate this? Why don't they all just vote with their feet and go off to Click2sell and CJ and Paydotcom and all the other places? Clickbank only get away with this because people tolerate it. As affiliates, we end up getting the service we tolerate, not the one we need.
     
    alexa_s, Dec 15, 2008 IP
  8. getjimmy

    getjimmy Prominent Member

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    Yes there is problem in CB tracking and its going on from last few month,try some other networks also.
     
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  9. AffiliateEsprit7

    AffiliateEsprit7 Peon

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    I agree Alexa, a lot of sales really went down the drain. I always have a positive attitude so the way I'm looking at it: Those hops are gone & those customers probably are to so all I can do is move forward & make more sales.

    But deep down I know I was shafted our of a ton of money. Whether it really was 64 or 50 or even just 10, those sales should have gone through.

    Clickbank's a great network but they need to do something about their tracking issues.

     
    AffiliateEsprit7, Dec 15, 2008 IP
  10. alexa_s

    alexa_s Peon

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    Yes, this is exactly what all the Clickbank experts over at the Warrior forum have been saying for some months now. It's just astonishing to me that Clickbank have affiliates left who are still carrying on.
     
    alexa_s, Dec 16, 2008 IP
  11. rolf

    rolf Active Member

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    Unfortuantely CB have cornered the market so they can do what they want. Paydotcom is nowhere near as good. Someone needs to create a really good alternative to CB, the market is begging for such a competitor.

    btw who is the chick in ur avatar? She's hot! :D
     
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  12. apples2

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    Yup, I agree 100% with your assessment that the girl in the avatar is very hot.

    :D
     
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  13. Ideastone

    Ideastone Peon

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    #13
    There are like hundreds of affiliate programs out there right now where you could be making money. Sign up for Pepperjam, CJ, Azoogle, Neverblue, Ads4Dough, CPA Empire, JoeBucks, WorldNiche, Amazon, eBay, Google's Affiliate Program, Linkshare....

    If you can go through even one of those programs and not find something that converts regularly and makes you money, you are doing something wrong. Run from ClickBank as fast as you can.

    The only way I'll promote CB now is via Article Marketing and SEO. Clickbank via PPC is suicide.
     
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  14. alexa_s

    alexa_s Peon

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    Ah, I see. Yes, this would account for what I see, perhaps, and I'm too inexperienced to have been aware of that. Well, they need some proper competition, then, don't they? And they need to learn that they can't actually do whatever they want. You really can't run a service industry business indefinitely without giving a decent service, and on that front nobody can really suggest that they're doing anything other than failing lamentably at the moment. I'm actually slightly surprised there isn't already more competition. But markets with one obvious "leader" can be difficult for people to break into, perhaps? When shall we start? :eek:

    (I'm writing my first ebook product at the moment and certainly not planning to use CB to sell it!).

    (Thank you for the avatar comment, kind Sir. :eek: )
     
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  15. rolf

    rolf Active Member

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    Oh right you really are a chick! lol. I'm used to dudes using an avatar of their favourite celebrity chick or their girlfriend lol.

    btw I'd consider CB if you want an affiliate program. Makes the process very easy. If you want to manage your own program via Paypal there is a good site to use, the damn name escapes me right now.....
     
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  16. alexa_s

    alexa_s Peon

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    Yes, me also, now. When I first came here, I found it disconcerting. Most of the people with "female avatars" here turned out to be male. Go figure.

    Mention it if it comes back to you, please: I'll be interested even if nobody else is! ;)
     
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  17. rolf

    rolf Active Member

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    yeah I don't understand having a female avatar if you're a dude. I always assume a dude.

    I remember that site/program. It's e-junkie. There are also coupons floating around the net to get it even cheaper than it already is.

    http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/help.affiliates.htm
     
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  18. SanityCheck

    SanityCheck Banned

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    what other programs are there to use that has good products? if the gurus all switched then most of us would anyhow :)
     
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  19. alexa_s

    alexa_s Peon

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    Thanks very much, Rolf. I'd heard of it but wouldn't have worked it out; I'll be taking a good look. At the moment, I'm not willing to invest time, effort, hope and money in Clickbank: in my opinion they are probably dangerously incompetent. Or worse.
     
    alexa_s, Dec 17, 2008 IP
  20. AffiliateEsprit7

    AffiliateEsprit7 Peon

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    Hey Alexa instead of cb what do you use?? Cj, paydotcom others??

     
    AffiliateEsprit7, Dec 22, 2008 IP