Is religion really the bad thing?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Gomar, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. #1
    I understand that the argument religion is used to justify violence acts and such. Or gets people to do things that are not really rational. It's is true that some people do manipulate religion to advance own agenda.

    I'm not in disagreement but could it be that it is not the religion that is the problem. But the nature of humans which we do that. If religion is abandoned it is quite possible that people will just take on something similar to replace it. If you think about it patriotism is not that different from religion in some aspects.
     
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  2. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    I think you are right in theory. Because technically people aren't out there on the battlefield shooting people with "religion".

    Sure it's a tool. But a nuclear weapon is a tool as well.

    Religion itself isn't just a tool used by bad men though. It is the root cause of nearly all wars. Weapons and other tools of war don't cause wars. Religion does.

    Sure religious leaders can use religion to whip people into a fervor. But people go out and sacrifice their lives because of their love for their religion. Not their love for the person who told them to be angry.

    Sure if you get rid of religion it's possible that we may find another reason to kill ourselves on the scale that religion has (not likely). But then again with religion in place in it's current form we'll not have that opportunity to find out.
     
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    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    Religion is very important in our lives.

    Even if religion did not exist, we will still find a reason to kill each other.

    Peace,
     
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    M5love Well-Known Member

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    George, you won't need "another reason to kill ourselves" because past wars tell us something. Hitler didn't kill in the name of religion did he? Stalin killed tens of millions, religion? nah.. Americans have killed millions around the world, religion? nah...
     
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  5. Gomar

    Gomar Well-Known Member

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    Ya, exactly. It's a tool and even if it didn't exist humans are inventive and adaptable. We'll just think up another tool. You say that religion is the root of all evil, I think you will have to put patriotism right up there as well. Their used by politicians in just about the same way, except it's not getting bashed like religion is nowadays.
     
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    ArtfulAffiliate Peon

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    WE created religion... just like WE created guns and war.
     
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    jumpboy11jaop Peon

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    Ever heard of the holocaust?
     
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  8. Gomar

    Gomar Well-Known Member

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    holocaust was not a religionous thing, it was a biological one.
     
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    Yes,you are right.I totally agree with you.:)
     
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    M5love Well-Known Member

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    yeah ive heard all about it since i was a kid... shame on my teachers that they bombarded me with that stuff. what about stalin's massacres? we never heard anything about those? seriously im gonna stop my kids from getting bombarded with all this overreaction, they are still using it to justify their own murders, fukin zionists.
     
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    jumpboy11jaop Peon

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    Who did we kill?

    Racist canadian pakistani *****
     
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    Extremism and out of context

    A majority of religious people are not "warmongers" by any means. It is the groups that "say" they are associated with a religion and twist it to there use.

    Now, the peaceful people get to be "stereo-typed" in with Extremism..
     
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    Wow do you have anger issues. What did canadians or pakis do to you? Do you have issues with canadians eh or pakis??? to be canadian and pakistani dual citizenship i would assume, lucky. When I went to Cuba in 1999 I had to go to canada could not go direct. Sorry off topic. anywhoo you just made a oxymoron with your statement Racist Canadian Pakistani *******, lol.+
    Edit: who did we kill? or who did we not kill or at least tried? the us flag is drenched in the blood of almost every nationality on the earth, we started early when we came here and killed the native americans, then we discovered new lands conquered them and by conquered them I mean killed raped and destroyed.
     
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    Please tell me you posses the intelligence to know that's not true. Especially the bolded part.

    The only way I could possibly give you the benefit of the doubt here is to believe you were just pretending to not know what you're talking about just to be funny.

    Who did Hitler and Stalin kill? - Jews

    Why did the war on terror start? - Muslim extremism.

    What is George Bush (along with a large portion of the right wing in our nation)? - An evangelical Christian - A.K.A the sworn enemy of extremist Islam.
     
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    #15
    without religion, people will become unhappy and stupit.
     
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    So many jokes, so little time. :(

    Can someone pick up the slack for me here?
     
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    Hitler didn't JUST kill Jews, that's one of those overly published story. He killed many more groups.. and what did he do it for? not for the religion buddy. So Stalin killed the Jews too?

    Safe your lame jokes for yourself dude.
     
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    Once upon a time it was needed. But now, it is totally useless.
     
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    That's what many people said over thousands of years,, guess what? They died became dust, and religion lived on..
     
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    people are already unhappy and stupid they just use religion to try to help them out and when it doesn't work and they lose all hope of living a life that is worth anything

    then they become terrorists, religion is just a crutch people use to give them hope but only you can give yourself hope not a religion
     
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