I’m not calling anyone QBC but what has “who Mikey is†got to do with anything? Come on guys, do you really think that not stating the problem in the sales thread is fair? Don’t think you have anything to worry about with your investment as I feel that the directories will come back. I have seen some great guys slated on DP in the post and unfairly so in my opinion. I still confused as to why it was not revealed that the site is penalized, surly it ok to ask the question. Thanks Brian
I think it depends on what their business model is and how they manage their stuff. This is true with any business. You go to the link sales forum, the graphic designs forum and those people have lowballed each other so much that you could literally buy anything for just pennies. It's all in how u run your business.
Ok am i seeing this right , this directory went live in may 2007 and it is pr0 and people are bidding $1460.00 for a year?
no that is not right, people are bidding that for a perm link. And the reason people are/were bidding that amount is because mikey did such a good job at promoting the site period.
Time for a reply, me thinks. I just got online after 9 hours out at work and 4 hours socialising Am i a QBC member? no...get your facts right before you accuse me... Why sell? Personal reasons, some if which i dont wish to discuss. One is the fact that im at college, and my grades took a serious knock when i was spending more time on DP and online promoting zorg links i didnt get top grades like i was used to, they were average. Now its my final year and i dont want to mess things up. The next reason is lack of motivation. For some unknown reason, i have felt like whatever i do, it just doesnt matter. Peoples attitude towards bid directories is poor to say the least, and a young guy like me spending $xx,xxx on a project where people out of the DP circle will never see the potential/be able to understand is not good for business. Thirdly, my next project. It almost feels like i pushed so hard to become the best phpLB directory, i never set further goals. A new project means a fresh start, which is good for everyone. Doing things badly. Yeah, when i came to DP i was several months younger which at my age feels like years in terms of maturity and understanding. I was a noob in he directory world and made many mistakes, doing things wrongly, many of which got pointed out by certain DP members. For example the buying of text links to manipulate PR which would in turn boost google ranks and future sales, leads me onto my final reason for selling - Google. Yeah thats right. Since the penalistation, i have said many its not a problem. Look at johnchow, he is penalised just like me, but people still buy PR6 links off his blog. Will a google penalisation affect future sales? probably. Every day i used to log in to analytics and take pride at the free traffic from google. I used to sit and smile when zorg links ranked high for really random search queries. Now i cant and i have only myself to blame. Its de-motivating knowing that i cant rank high and people who submitted to zorg links probably wont get the nice backlink benefits, so thats why i spent a lot on adverts to give them the traffic they deserve. Nobody knows what/how/if possible a site can return to top ranks in google, so thats why google wasnt a big factor for selling, although it was a contributing factor. As for the auction, i have a high reserve. I wont be selling for less than 10 months of revenue. Its not QBC, the site has been around since may, and people have watched it rise. The reasons i have written have nothing to do with me trying to cash in on the google downfall/me trying to make a quick buck. In the likely event that i dont get right sale price, what happens next? Firstly zorg links will remain the best (IMO), the only way is up. I will continue to rise and provide the traffic that listed sites enjoy. It will become the most advanced bid directory and will be a reference point for other bid directories. I hope it will become so strong google will un-penalise me. I wont be buying links anymore either. My next project will still go ahead. If i sold zorg links the next project would be able to launch with more of a bang which would be nice, but either way, my next project will too rise high and be a success like everything (most things ) that i do in life. Just remember, im going nowhere, you wont be getting rid of me (unless a DP mod bans me ) and zorg links will have a bright future whether i am the owner or not. Mike
well this statement makes me want to spend my money with you not you wish there is bigger and better than you good luck 10 months rev for a site penalized in google no chance dreaming again this one worries me the most if you have no motivation and a lack of time it wont be as good as you think it will damn thats a shame i hate arrigant school kids
This coming from a directory owner who cares. "loss motivation" "too busy with college" What I don't understand is how people become directory owners and not willing to commit to the time it takes to run one. If you know you have school or something that may keep you busy in the near future, why bother to start one at all?
That occured within recent days, not whilst people were investing. I do. More competition brings out better results. You think if TLA sold their business the potential buyers would care about google? Business is business, i dont see why google plays such a big role in sale price. It helps to have good rankings, but zorg links has better traffic than many of the bid directories and paid directories that have not been penalised. Show me a better phpLB bidding directory. I will make time. You no nothing about my life so have no right to comment. Lack of motivation was recent, and related to the mistakes i made with zorg links. This wont be a problem with future directories. Really? I guess bill gates was an arrogant school kid, who actually left early. Now i guess hes laughing as most of us use his OS/browser...
A hobby can turn big. Its hard to plan ahead, balancing time is one of the biggest challenges for many people. Until you know me or know my life, i think i am the only DP member who can comment on this.
GOOD LUCK on your next major project. You will no doubt have time and motivation for that. Must be hard for you to leave your site as it has a "bright future"
Mike, please help me to understand above, what is wrong in buying text links. And Good Luck with your new project and college.
This tool will depend upon the quality of listings in a directoryAlso It's time we have to think differently Directories only accept quality websites (though they are selling links ,they sell links only for a websites of certain quality) So a site which has been accepted in more than 100 directories will indicate that the site is a good quality site and has been reviewed by more than 100 editors Whereas PR or other things does not indicate a quality of a site!
I agree with this, he is selling his bid directory without pointing out the supposed Google penality. It's a little shady for him to do this in my opinion. I think you should really point this out to the new purchaser if you find one before any money is exchange. It will save face and your integrity.
Hate to be the one to always bring up the bad news, but I think your 10 months projected revenue will greatly drop since it just got some sort of penalty from Google. Alot of people who would have submitted to your directory will think twice and stay away from it. I really think that you should be fair to someone who is thinking of buying your directory that this is mentioned to them. Alot of people aren't as tech savy as some of us and may have no idea about Google penalization, etc..., and because of your past performance just decide to buy the directory. In the end it will save face for your integrity. Whether you like it or not - Google is the main factor for all of OUR directories making money. It's just most people are in denial about it, and don't want to admit it. They ramble on and on about whatever happens to them Google won't affect how they run their directory, they say people are advertising for traffic, for more exposure, etc.... We know that is all bull.... I'm not against anyone here, in fact I'm in the same boat as everyone because I run directories. It just makes me frustrated that some people can't just stop being in denial, and all stop making excuses that Google isn't a huge factor.
For a newby can you clarify 10 months revenue in that, is this taken from the most recent months revenue X 10 or the past 10 months as an average, in both cases the longer it was on the market ( months go by ) with the downturn should not this price level out to a lower figure ? and basing it on average sales prior to the downturn in a way infalating this price. I am aslo curious why the figure 10 is used rather than say 12 months I think this statement falls over itself in that you have already said above in you post that you had lost motivation etc, lack of time etc , i cant see how the time one alone will change as it would affect your schooling again and in that if it were kept it would be a half assed attempt at making look the part, you simply can not say with one hand you need the extra time to study then swap and say if it does not sell it will continue at the top with no time, no motivation then further confuse that with a new product I think as above i would need to ask why this would rise to the top with other commitments as you have That staement is also wrong, if zorg links had a new owner you could not guarantee its bright future. Footnote, for what it's worth i think your an ok person who is young and green in life and i am also sure with everyday that passes you will become that little bit better at what you do and i wish you every success in moving forward.
You folks are all in deep denial. $50,000 for zorg-links is obscene. Google DESPISES paid links and specifically asks people to report them on Webmaster Tools. zorg-links is the most recent of many to try to get out of the directory business at an absurd profit. Genuine Paid, link-rain, heavy directory, etc.--Google caught you up, and now you're trying to get out at a ridiculous profit. Nobody has bid at SitePoint, and I hope nobody does. Paid directories are DEAD, and it's time people admitted it. Bill