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Old Jul 27th 2008, 10:42 pm
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JohnChow.com demoted to PR3 - Shoemoney.com up to PR6

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John Chows blog has been penalized for a long time and my blog has been a pr6 for a LONG time (like 2 years).




Here's another example of why Google is absolutely biased, useless and pageranks (and serps) can be easily manipluated (almost as easy as feedburner stats are manipulated).

JohnChow.com was PR6 a little under a year ago and it has been systematically demoted to a PR3 while Shoemoney.com has risen to a PR6. Both blogs are pandering to the same element, both are little more than prostitution dens wrapped in Wordpress. As far as backlinks go, a Yahoo search shows...

1 - 10 of 126,000 for linkdomain: johnchow. com- site: johnchow. com
1 - 10 of 115,000 for linkdomain: shoemoney. com- site: shoemoney. com

So, JohnChow essentially has 11K more backlinks than shoemonkey. What is the difference here ?? Why is Shoemoney more of an "authority" than JohnChow??

If you look at the Shoemoney article "Google Doesn’t Dig Digg After All", foot fetish blatantly throws 5 (yes, count them 5) dofollow links to Arrington's TechCrunch and CrunchBase. hmmm, shoe is a programmer. He nofollows almost everything else?? Just like Arrington, selective links are followed while others are nofollowed.

Case in point... Techcrunch has been promoting the site Seesmic.com which is a total idiotic startup that is only 1 YEAR OLD yet has a PR7. Why? beacause Arrington is linking to it without nofollow on TC.

This is total biased bull that the majority of webmasters are struggling to honestly build their sites but Google keeps tearing them down, yet Google turns a blind eye to the most obvious, highest paid link sellers.

Why is Text-Link-Ads a PR7 ? I guess it's ok to be a text-link broker but God forbid some poor blogger in the Philippines dares to write a paid post for ReviewMe or sell a link via TNX and they are stripped of their PR and essentially the food off their table.

Time to wake up everybody. If you're a webmaster, it's time to take a stand against Google's oppressive nature and their pagerank system which is turning the internet into a cesspool.
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Old Jul 27th 2008, 10:45 pm
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Time to wake up everybody. If you're a webmaster, it's time to take a stand against Google's oppressive nature and their pagerank system which is turning the internet into a cesspool.
How do you intend to do that?
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It's a good reminder to every webmaster. Thanks dude.
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How do you intend to do that?
Do you actually read anything more than the last sentence before you hit the reply button? If you had actually read what you replied to you would notice that nowhere did I say that "I" was going to do anything. I humbly suggest you read before hitting the reply button and chirping in with a legendary one-liner.

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Way to go Bryce, can i include your article on my blogs and inviting more ppl to fight google on its oppressive, I real love this line

"Why is Text-Link-Ads a PR7 ? I guess it's ok to be a text-link broker but God forbid some poor blogger in the Philippines dares to write a paid post for ReviewMe or sell a link via TNX and they are stripped of their PR and essentially the food off their table."
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Do you actually read anything more than the last sentence before you hit the reply button? If you had actually read what you replied to you would notice that nowhere did I say that "I" was going to do anything. I humbly suggest you read before hitting the reply button and chirping in with a legendary one-liner.

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I know somebody would technically refute your post.

Manipulation of SERPs is a possibility. Let's wait for Knol articles, if it beat the Wikipedia entries in the search results in less than a year. That could be it.
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Time to wake up everybody. If you're a webmaster, it's time to take a stand against Google's oppressive nature and their pagerank system which is turning the internet into a cesspool.
How do you thin this could be done?

Also - how can google know who sells text links via TNX?
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I concur to every word you said.
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you forgot a good point though..
johnchow is full of crap post.. at least shoemoney is informative.. and not 100% paid blog post..

IMO a pr3 is still to high for mr chow
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Time to wake up everybody. If you're a webmaster, it's time to take a stand against Google's oppressive nature and their pagerank system which is turning the internet into a cesspool.
The reality is...the majority of users will never see PageRank, nor will they even know what it is. It's already been stated in the past that PageRank does not equate to rankings or anything else, just because a site has a higher PR doesn't make it better or anything of that sort, it's purely based upon links (as you've said), and is therefore not really even an accurate or representative of the derived experience from a webpage (usefulness, etc).

I think there may be some relevance though between those who sell links to related sites, and those who do not (as a qualifier for who gets punished). In the case of TC, a new "start-up" is related to their content (and partially a large focus of their blog?). Viagra though? Not so much

And besides -- it's impossible for the people who ARE "webmasters" to take a stand against google, as the majority of them are probably reliant on them. Find some people who just run some 12 year olds running silly geocities site covered in ads (that aren't even theirs), and let them release their wrath upon...Google

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Do you actually read anything more than the last sentence before you hit the reply button? If you had actually read what you replied to you would notice that nowhere did I say that "I" was going to do anything. I humbly suggest you read before hitting the reply button and chirping in with a legendary one-liner.
I read the whole thing. You drink pee.
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you forgot a good point though..
johnchow is full of crap post.. at least shoemoney is informative.. and not 100% paid blog post..

IMO a pr3 is still to high for mr chow
Shoemoney is allright. Johnchow is all about every penny.
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you forgot a good point though..
johnchow is full of crap post.. at least shoemoney is informative.. and not 100% paid blog post..

IMO a pr3 is still to high for mr chow
I agree with you, he posts about dinners, and gadgets, and a lot of bullshit + some paid reviews. I don't think that ANY of his followers makes real money from blogs/sites.
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Really interesting tread! Thanks for sharing. It also could be that one website has less quality links compared to the other. Either that or Google deemed that many of the links were obtained through illegal means. Who knows?

But one thing is for sure, Google is the main source of traffic and income for many websites. It is not easy nor wise to simple go against them.
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I thought Google has a beef with Text-Link-Ads.com? They still don't rank for the term "text link ads" yet.
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I know somebody would technically refute your post.

Manipulation of SERPs is a possibility. Let's wait for Knol articles, if it beat the Wikipedia entries in the search results in less than a year. That could be it.
I just looked at Knol, and there are already six articles about mesothelioma while general keywords like cats are only getting two. lol.
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