Adsense Revenue Sharing - How l lenient would Google be?

I have seen two major Adsense Revenue Sharing site where authors contribute their own writings.

www.senserely.com

www.userwritenresources.com

I am sure in both cases the webmasters behind these sites take care not to violate TOS. However say someone wrote a pornagraphic piece just to be funny or to mess them up. This violates the TOS. Would google immediately ban them or would they get a chance to remove the violating articles.

would both the author and the owner get banned because both ads would appear at different times?

 

Well yeah that's an ugly stuff...but since you wrote here, as this could be a possibility to mess them up, the owners could rely on your saying, and telling this to google too.. so there's an explanation why they shouldnt be banned..
whats the second website? just can't load it..maybe u misspelled..

anything is possible google is evil

 

Isn't all those new articles approved by administrator?

 

Not immediatly of course, what I found is that there are some "stop words" which disable the ads completely, so adsense is not shown. Then when I found out I remove the offending content and ban the user with his adsense publisher ID so that he will never be able to sign up on senserely again.

If adsense were to found out before me, I think the normal way to deal with it would be an email sent to both the user and me to remove the ads from the adult oriented page, then if their email goes unanswered or the page stays the same they will proceed to ban the accounts.

The second site is mispelled yes, correct url is http://www.userwrittenresources.com

 

Have you talked to Google about it. If one of the two sites got popular.... and the other is www.userwrittenresources.com then it could be physically impossible to read all of them.

If you made them sign an agreement saying that if they violate Google TOS then they will be banned does Google take that into consideration?

 

Are these ad revenue sharing sites worthwhile? Has anyone had any good results from them?

 

I don't know about the other ones, but on Senserely I made it quite clear in the sign up form : http://www.senserely.com/user/register

"
Respect our advertisers and your AdSense account
You have read and agree to the following:
You earn money on this site when someone clicks the AdSense blocks with your AdSense Publisher ID in them.

Before you plan on clicking on your own ads or asking others to do it for you, here are some things you may NOT do:
You may NOT click your own ads
You may NOT ask others to click your ads
You may NOT tell others you are clicking on their ads
Doing any of these things will cause Google to disable your AdSense account and when that happens, it is impossible to get another one.

Doing any of these things will also result in our banning you from the site permanently.

We have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy on this, so respect our advertisers and your AdSense account.
"

Yes that's clear, background color is bright yellow
Of course there isn't everything covered here, but I don't like duplicated content, I accept free reprintable articles as long as they respect the original author's wishes for the live links, and only being watchful for that takes a fair amount of time, so many people seem to think that's ok to put their name as author!
One of them did it but told me that he bought the article from a website nammed infogoround.com which sells "private label rights" articles, in my opinion this is a pure scam, so I'm in the process of asking original authors (easily found on the web) if they know about the infogoround story..

But I prefer original content, like copies from one blog, not reprintable articles, so I let them do it, but I don't like that very much, quite useless, I don't need to create a community website to do that I can do that by myself or even train a monkey.

 

yeah i have read your site. I like it. I have to same type of things for a similar site. However my concern is not that you or I ban them when they violate.

It is how google will feel if they have a violation that you didn't catch or go back in and change an articles and make it say "Hey click over here to the right"

Google catches it. You don't. It was your ID that Google saw the day it looked and bam. You are banned even though you didn't do anything wrong.

Or would Google most likely contact you first and then if it wasn't fixed, start banning.

 

Yes, it's risky as you put it, because it would work fine for one time where they have to warn me but then if it happens twice or more with other contents, they might decide to ban me. And then I don't know how I would go about running Senserely for free, might have to sell it

One easy way to deal with that would be to implement a bonus system for violation reporting, what Google doesn't do, like win 50 extra points for being the first to report a bad post following these rules: 1,2,3..
Points allowing members to get more adsense ID exposure.

 

That's the problem with rev sharing. It's still a relatively new concept, and Google seems to have no concrete answers for anything regarding it. They say Yes, you can do it, but how lenient will they be with potential problems? That's the pitfall. And if a site should come under scrutiny, will it be the site that gets banned, or the publishers contributing to the rev sharing? Very serious issues with, from what I can surmise, not very hard answers. This is one reason why I tend to be weary of rev sharing, as I don't feel like entrusting my account to not only a total stranger (the webmaster of the rev sharing forum/site), but all the other members as well.

 

as always Jack, very thoughtful answer. I am going to compose a letter to google tomorrow and ask them specific questions concerning revenue sharing. if anyone has anything to add or would like for me to ask please post before the morning.

 

Kind of an old thread, but did Google respond?

 

Google has already given their blessing to rev sharing. But the real question is how they will respond if something goes awry. Say, a member commits fraud clicks, etc. That's the question on the table right now.

 

Yes it is and I asked them directly and I got a generic email saying they support ad switching for different publishers. They did say that I would be warned before banned but I have never heard anyone talk about being warned.

 

Some people are warned about fraudulent clicks detected on their account and then are subsequently banned.

I've read some stories about writingup.com especially from members of bloggerparty.com who were on writingup.com and then pull out of it. The main explanation is that writingup was receiving a lot of illegitimate traffic and the webmaster wasn't doing anything about it (like using .htaccess to block it) and some membershave had their account banned.

No such stories heard on bloggerparty, neither on other ad revenue sharing websites, so maybe it's just rumors, but you can easily find it if you search for "writingup" on bloggerparty or for "bloggerparty" on writingup

 

now thats something i don' t know a whole lot about...how would you use .htacess to block fraudelent clicks.

 

I'm sorry I wrote something without re reading, all the stories have to do with illegitimate impressions, not fraudulent clicks, because of autosurf programs.

 

How do you prevent Auto surf clicks?

 

Auto surf programs are all about driving up the impressions and visitor count, not clicks.

 

Hmmm, but AFAIK the impressions don't "count" at all; see this particular post of mine in the "Am I going to be banned?? Email from them..." thread here on Digital Point forum (and maybe also this one)


P.S. -- Although, it is true that in the linked post (or two posts) I was talking about me making those impressions, not some robot/autosurf program ...


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