Google and the Mysterious Case of the 1969 Pagejackers

Discussion in 'Google' started by vagrant, Feb 8, 2005.

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  2. briandunning

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  3. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Join the club Brian.

    They either intentionally stole your SERPs or unintentionallt 302 redirected a link to you.

    You better aks them politely first, e-mailing them some links explaining the issue. If all else fails, hijack them back.
     
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    Thanks for the info Vagrant. Now I'm off to wade through all of the links. :)
     
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  5. briandunning

    briandunning Active Member

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    I don't suppose there's a way to override or undo whatever they've done? If you look at my page, it's obviously not a page someone would link to.
     
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  6. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Not unless you hack into their server and change it to a 301 redirect.
     
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  7. Chiara

    Chiara Peon

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    What's going on? When I check my site using the site: www.site.com thing, one of my urls shows up with no description underneath it but the http is all funky - and when I click on it, it goes to microsoft.com. Obviously microsoft isn't doing anything spammy to me so what would cause this?
     
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    Mostly all cases I have seen like this have been intentional. So it is best to try to get them to get rid of it. I've seen this on many ebook sites in particular.

    If all else fails, as TOPS30 said, Hijack 'em back!
     
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    Well, for me nothing happened. All info is shown correctly, my SERPs didn't change, my PR is the same... Everything fine ;P
     
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  10. chachi

    chachi The other Jason

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    Look at this joker. One of our sites is listed on this page. Look at the way his links are structured http://ww19. foodlines.com/description-5-1-college_essay_good_topic.html (you will need to remove the space before foodlines).
     
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    That is SUCH a sweet site.
     
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  12. chachi

    chachi The other Jason

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    heh, the best part is the links to the other cnames at the bottom. He has a whole family of awesome 302 pagejacking sites.
     
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    I had been jacked for quite some time... and I believe it goes further back than August, 2003. Here a thread that explains one of the problems the best I have seen. There are other methods, and some are purposeful, some are not.

    http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/25638-39-10.htm
    (the second post)

    Originally, the first I saw was a cgi script link, not put up for harm, but google would show me as the link, http:// somedomain.com/link.cgi?link_id=xxxx kind of thing. Still went to my site, but looked like hell in the serps. See http:// techdog.com/ for and example. Using the whole friggin' DMOZ. Later, google tried to fix it, but started a whole other problem - showing the page the link is on as the site that deserved the rank. About the same time, they stopped showing all PR4+ backlinks. I think they are related, and want to see the next backlink update.

    The site I was jacked by changed to java links after the last update. Another host owned the domain, and several others. Hopefully google has fixed this, and they reacted to it.
     
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    maybe if they did not have an adsence account they would not try to trick google so much ?
     
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    I figured that was why google let them slide so long...

    Read somewhere google's profits were up 7-fold last quarter.
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Looks completely innocent to me. Looks like a link directory you are in that redirects to your page.

    BTW, had the #1 spot for "Mesothelioma Attorney" for 45 days straight until I was wakeboarded out :) That's the fun of the game...
     
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  17. NetMidWest

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    I was wrong about which site had me under their url in the serps...
    http://web.archive.org/web/20030808091950/www.monster-submit.com/scripts/resources/links.php?cat=34
    is the page that had the link that google had problems with. I originally contact google about this in june, 2004. Google changed something, it stopped showing the description for my site, and I contacted them about what is now known as rank or page jacking on Aug. 14, 2004. I didn't see it as that at the time, and google's reply was that there must have been some server configuration error on my site's server. I spent some time trying to figure that out. Eventually, I realized I had no problem, it was google, and it could be used as blackhat seo. I didn't want to post the problem anywhere. The site eventually took that directory down, and I began to see sites that were using it for pagejacking.
     
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  18. NetMidWest

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    I don't see how anyone makes money by pagejacking. Sure the URL changes but you still get the traffic. Maybe I am missing something?
     
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  20. NetMidWest

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    Go to the Google Datacenter Watch Tool and plug in 'netmidwest web hosting paypal'. Take a look at the results. On some, you see my title, my url. On others, you will see thechump. Who do you think should pop up first? Until about 2 weeks ago, they were running in the top 10, where I am now, for 'web hosting paypal'. The redirect links they had have been taken down, now they are java, but look at the cache and you will see them. Google is/was attributing the rank for my site to the page the link is on. Otherwise, they would be down in the serps, beyond the 20-30 results most searchers will look at.

    Look at the second post here:
    http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/25638-39-10.htm
    it explains one method.

    I think it is the same bug that allows someone to 302 a domain to another, then later lift it, and show the same pagerank. It was used to fool many into thinking they were getting links off good PR pages that were basically worthless. With people selling links....
     
    NetMidWest, Feb 10, 2005 IP