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Entire Niche Slapped for Paid Links

Discussion in 'Google' started by riverrun, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. #1
    Some very large poker affiliates where just slapped by Google and taken out of the top 10 SERPs for their own name. Also many poker blogs that had paid links to these sites vanished over night. It looks like google has figured out a way to know when sites are buying links. They obviously started with the Poker sites but could easily move on to other niches. Google also said that re inclusion is possible but by slapping everybody they are definitely sending a message.

    1. Cards Chat: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cardschat
    2. Poker Source Online: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=poker+source+online
    3. Poker Helper: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=poker+helper
    4. Launch Poker: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=launch+poker
    5. Compatible Poker: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=compatible+poker

    This has HUGE implications to other niches!
     
    riverrun, Jul 7, 2008 IP
  2. SeoConcepts

    SeoConcepts Peon

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    #2
    I think the problem is not in paid links. If so, I could buy links pointing to my competitors.
     
    SeoConcepts, Jul 7, 2008 IP
  3. Semiperfectus

    Semiperfectus Peon

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    I don't think it has anything to do with paid links either. I've got some tips and tricks to avoid being banned from google on my blog. You can check it out at http://www.semiperfectus.info/?p=59

    Greets,

    Semi
     
    Semiperfectus, Jul 7, 2008 IP
  4. longcall911

    longcall911 Peon

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    #4
    Actually, they started quite a while ago with bidding directories. So this is not a new practice at all.

    Also, selling links in and of itself is not the problem. Selling PR is the issue.

    /*tom*/
     
    longcall911, Jul 7, 2008 IP
  5. FREE BET

    FREE BET Peon

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    well, i got slapped with one of my sites...awful....from 2 to 4 today....and i was not purchasing any pr.....
     
    FREE BET, Jul 7, 2008 IP
  6. tonyran

    tonyran Peon

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    #6
    you could also click bombed your competitor......your point?
     
    tonyran, Jul 7, 2008 IP
  7. mbreezy

    mbreezy Active Member

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    A little new here, what is a click bomb?
     
    mbreezy, Jul 7, 2008 IP
  8. LinkPopularity

    LinkPopularity Peon

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    #8
    I'm not surprised
    here's the deal;
    google makes his money because they show good search results, so to keep those results good they need to make sure that cheaters get filtered out ... that's why they devalue paid links

    about pushing your competition out;
    if youpay for links, you don't get penalized, the paid links just don't count, so those who rank without paid links, will keep their ranking even if you poitn a zillion paid links to them !!
     
    LinkPopularity, Jul 7, 2008 IP
  9. Bradz21

    Bradz21 Peon

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    Well purchasing links could be the problem, but other factors could also be in play. We don't know the extent of their marketing and exactly what techniques they might have been using.

    Brad
     
    Bradz21, Jul 8, 2008 IP
  10. WebHostAdvisor

    WebHostAdvisor Peon

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    My understanding is that google does not penalize you for links connecting to your site - theoretically you have no control over the sites that link to you - they just don't help your PR.
     
    WebHostAdvisor, Jul 9, 2008 IP
  11. FanAddict

    FanAddict Notable Member

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    Exactly.

    Anyways, all of those sites ARE RANKING #1 FOR THEIR NAMES. It could have been a hiccup on the SE's that you saw.
     
    FanAddict, Jul 9, 2008 IP
  12. winsoar

    winsoar Well-Known Member

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    #12
    Google have said before its OK to sell links. It is NOT OK to sell PageRank however.
     
    winsoar, Jul 9, 2008 IP
  13. prgam

    prgam Peon

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    #13
    I don't see them ranking for their own names.
     
    prgam, Jul 11, 2008 IP
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    metros Notable Member

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    #14
    Hi,
    That's can't be accurate since you can easily ban any of your competes.

    That's inside Google and we still, will never know..
     
    metros, Jul 11, 2008 IP
  15. baybossplaya

    baybossplaya Active Member

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    #15
    those are probably manual bans
     
    baybossplaya, Jul 11, 2008 IP
  16. tonyran

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    #16
    Why are people so hung up on the idea that Google is all fair and square.
    You can file DMCA to shoot you competitor down, you can click bombed his ads, so is linking from spammy site to your competitor. What makes you think that Google will stop protecting its interest just because "its not fair".

    Google says its algorithm can distinguish bad link from good link pointing to you. Wouldn't Google use it if it has too?

    See here http://www.adsensechamber.com/2008/tips/can-backlinks-hurt-your-site/
     
    tonyran, Jul 11, 2008 IP
  17. dairyman

    dairyman Notable Member

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    #17
    One of my friends site PR dropped from PR4 to PR0 during the previous update because of selling links. Google is watching all the sites for this kind of activity.
     
    dairyman, Jul 11, 2008 IP
  18. LTY83

    LTY83 Peon

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    #18
    Here is an idea - Why not take your banned domains and 301 them to your competitors. They will appreciate that.
     
    LTY83, Jul 11, 2008 IP