Obama’s Communist Mentor

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    One of the latest revelations about Senator Obama was published this week by Cliff Kincaid

    Kincaid’s article, “Obama’s Communist Mentor” describes the close relationship that Barack Obama developed with Frank Marshall Davis while Obama lived in Hawaii from 1971-1979. Davis was a member of the Communist Party, USA and gave Obama advice on career choices.

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    The site this is pulled off of seems like a neo-con "God is good" website.

    Aside form that, all you have to do is read his recipe for disaster to understand just how communist he is.
     
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    When you read this, what kind of points did he make that came off as Communist?
     
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    The Ol' "government should only help the rich become richer or otherwise it must be Communist propaganda" stance.
     
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    The Global Poverty Act sponsored by Obama could cost the US as much as 1 trillion dollars if foreign aid.

    Sounds like international communism to me.

    http://borgenproject.org/globalpovertyact.html
     
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    Did you know that 90% of Americans will have lower taxes under President Obama than they will under a President McCain?

    Did you know that everyone making less than 250,000 a year will have their taxes lowered under President Obama (that's 95% of Americans.)

    Yup, sounds real "communist" to me. Get a grip.
     
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    How can the Government the cut taxes and expand the Government?

     
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    Sounds like an Obama campaign promise that he has no plans keeping.

    Similiar to Obama's broken campaign finance pledge.

    A year ago, at the beginning of his bid to secure the clean-up-Washington mantle, Barack Obama made a pact with John McCain that, if the two were to be their party’s nominees, each would accept public financing for the general election.
     
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    Can someone explain to me how punishing the rich is **NOT** communist?

    I can't think of anything more un-American than punishing the rich and the successful...

    This is supposed to be the land of opportunity, not the land of collectivist guilt and envy. As long as the money is come by honestly, does it make any sense to punish someone who works hard, has in demand skills or conducts commerce effectively?
     
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    International communism LOL

    Sounds more like international philanthropy.

    Some people haven't traveled outside of the good ol' USA and don't know how extremely dirt poor other places can get.

    It's a funny fact of human nature how people can be all gung-ho for spending their money on frivilous wars, yet when it comes to helping other people they can be complete tightwads.
     
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    Philanthropy is not conducted with a gun. That is called extortion. And while by principle I don't agree with taxes, taking money from Americans, when millions are on foodstamps, and giving it to someone in another country is absolutely evil.
     
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    I'm not sure if you would need to point a gun at someone you were giving aid to ("Take this food or I'll shoot!").

    These people live on less than a dollar a day. Here in Mexico the average population lives in $2 a day.

    Yes, millions are on foodstamps - they are getting aid if they need it. In many places you can go to foodbanks and get free food if you need it - America is Great. Can you say the same about other countries?

    About 50,000 people die globally of starvation a day. I think that's totally ridiculous.

    What would be absolutely evil is if we didn't do anything.
     
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    It's theft plain and simple.

    Saint Obama will be a millionaire once he is President and rips off the American people the way every President in the last 20 years has. He can donate his own damn money to foreigners if he chooses. It's not his right to take from the citizens by force or inflationary theft to finance his personal moral crusades.

    Until people break out of this slave and guilt mentality, we're going to keep descending deeper and deeper into tyranny and despotism.

    Charity is a willful act of compassionate people, not extortion or coercion by government agents.
     
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    I see what your saying, I can understand that.
     
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    I've been South of the Border.

    I was out in one of those towns where people live on less than $2 a day. They would stop working at 1:00 pm

    I bought some abandoned land and planted coffee and other stuff. On 35 acres on top of a Mountain I've planted approx 50% in coffee and the other 50% in forest. In addition, there are platanos, bananas and malanga for the workers to supplement their diet. I've also planted some mahagony, spanish cedar and laurel which helps the watershed and can provide a resource in the future. I also have another 65 acres nearby where I keep some pack horses and donkies to transport the harvest as well as let the workers plant some corn and yucca. The extra money that I spent in the local economy has helped provide some employment and environmental benefit. I was able to turn a small profit last year thanks to high commodity prices and this year should be better. I've already been offered 4x the price I've paid for the land from locals.

    I wonder why you think that Americans should be obligated to send 1 trillion dollars in aid to the world?

    Have you ever been to America? Go to areas like the Bronx and you will find that the poor receiving food stampls own color tvs, cell phones and even have cars.

    Glad you understand what guerilla is saying.
     
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    That sounds like a cool operation you have.

    Hey, we get screwed over in every other aspect. Why not to help out the world? At least the money isn't paying for death like usual.

    Yes, this is exactly the point.
     
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    We're pals, so obviously I hope you aren't taking this personally.

    But do you really understand?

    We all have an obligation to help out our fellow man. But that obligation is personal. You, me, we should each be trying to help out people, and when possible collaborate. But I have no right to take your stuff and give it to someone else, or likewise for you take my stuff and give it without my blessing or permission.

    The danger of a government that tries to legislate morality, is that you end up with people who never meet the people they are supposedly helping. They never really understand their needs, or making the sort of social and emotional connections that can make aid or charity into something long lasting and meaningful.

    I realize people are pissed off and frustrated at the Republicans, and McCain is a total piece of **** but Obama is not Jesus. He's not going to save the world, turn water into wine, or be any more effective sending OUR MONEY overseas to other governments than past regimes. The aid rarely reaches the people, because government doesn't have to give up anything to hand it out. So it gets spent on political ends, and the people it is supposed to help never get any benefit, and in some cases, their corrupt governments use the aid as a weapon against them!

    Guys like you and me need to contribute to the Red Cross. We need to reward agencies that are very effective with their funding, to discourage wastefulness.

    Of course, Obama's gazillion dollar aid package can't be financed with taxes, so he'll actually print the money out of thin air, which is a way of stealing from the people who need the money most, and undermines the global economy that reserves in US dollars.

    I'm not a cold, selfish bastard. My highest purpose is to help people, not to own things. But government handouts are the complete opposite of good intentions, compassion and charity. You can't force Iraqis to get along and accept democracy with a gun, and you can't force people to be "good" with violence.

    If Saint Obama wants to make the world a better place, how about he starts drawing down the troops we have in 140+ countries around the world, and stopping arms sales to tyrannical regimes like the Saudis. How about he stops occupying Iraq, while shooting missiles from remote drones/naval ships at African townships, and punishing the Afghanis for growing their only valuable crop in a mountainous wasteland?

    If he wants to make the world a better place, why doesn't he extend the hand of peace, of friendship to Iran, instead of promoting the AIPAC agenda?

    If he wants to help poor, urban Americans, why doesn't he decriminalize drugs and free hundreds of thousands of people from jail for victimless crimes?

    It's because he's full of crap. Unfortunately.
     
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    Yeah, that all makes sense to me. Nothing personal of course.
     
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    Opium is only valuable because politically there are limited places to grow. Poppies are grown in Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, Burma, India, Loas, Vietnam, Colombia, Mexico and Guatemala.

    Australia in a leading exporter of legal opiates to the US and the poppy industry is a major financial contributor to Tasmania's economy. The area sown to poppies is 20 000 hectares of land. Tasmania provides 40% of the US market's legal opiate supply in the form of codeine, thebaine and other variants.

    http://www.launc.tased.edu.au/online/sciences/agsci/alkalo/popindus.htm
     
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    And it is valuable in Afghanistan because there are limited things which grow there.
     
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