I had a fellow DP member help me install a script on a domain for me last week! I had given him access to just that ftp account to install He kept asking me for ssh access to install it because he said he needed it! I refused to give it to him! Well during the same time my yahoo messenger was acting up horribly and I was getting warnings from my Virus scanner which I couldnt understand why! Just the week before I had a fellow DP member catch a scipt that installed my old programmers adsense id on all my sites. He removed them a closed all open vulnerabilities on the server. My adsense income began to climb. Well after having this OTHER DP member (not the DP member that caught them stealing) after he installed this script on a totally no related domain (which he never finishd) I saw mt adsense drastically drop! So once again I hired a team programmers from DP to go back in a find out it was being done. ANd to totally revamp my system. They found that someone had once again hacked in a replaced their pub id in on my sites! Yesterday I was talking to the DP member who goes by gurpartap I was telling him I got an email from google saying they were hunting the people who had done this and closing their accounts and even contacting their host to shut their sites down , which they have already done with 2 of the sites. The Chat ended and I kept working This evening this DP Member contacts me and says "I am sorry but I forgot to tell you I put my pub id on your sites and I forgot to tell you ... I am letting you all know this guys is a hacker and a scammer and has been ripping me off .. here is a copy of the chat where he informs me .. I will black out the places where I used foul language , I was MAD mission_khalsa Singh: hi mission_khalsa Singh: i remember why i got the treat me: what? mission_khalsa Singh: i had put my adsense on ezinecrow.com me: did you mission_khalsa Singh: yes i did me: well you will be losing your adsense account mission_khalsa Singh: mission_khalsa Singh: i m sorry mission_khalsa Singh: me: what the fxxxx are you doing in my adsense area on ezinecrow mission_khalsa Singh: i forgot that i had done it. remember today morning mission_khalsa Singh: i didnt do anything mission_khalsa Singh: i just put 1 id mission_khalsa Singh: i had put only for 1 day mission_khalsa Singh: mission_khalsa Singh: pleae forgive me me: well you account is going to be shut down I will make sure of it me: NO mission_khalsa Singh: i told you the truth frankly me: watch what happend in DP mission_khalsa Singh: me: watch the boards mission_khalsa Singh: which post me: I will be making it soon mission_khalsa Singh: please forgive me mission_khalsa Singh: i wont ever do anything with u mission_khalsa Singh: me: NO that is theft me: I trusted you and you screwed me mission_khalsa Singh: no i just did for that day. i wanted to try mission_khalsa Singh: cant you forgive ur buddy? me: if you come xxxxxx anywhere near my server I will destroy you or use all I know too mission_khalsa Singh: i haave boldly told u the truth. if i hadnt u might not have know it mission_khalsa Singh: mission_khalsa Singh: sorry, i wont even access any of your sites without your consent ever. me: you told me after I told you that we turned in the publisher ids to google mission_khalsa Singh: no. i didnt remember yesterday i had done that. otherwise i wud have told u that moment me: I never gave you access to ezinecrow mission_khalsa Singh: i remembered it so i told u mission_khalsa Singh: u gave me me: I NEVER GAVE YOU ACCESS TO THAT SITE me: BULLSHIT mission_khalsa Singh: you gave ftp mission_khalsa Singh: me: NO mission_khalsa Singh: yes my sir mission_khalsa Singh: me: i GAVE YOU ACCESS TO sUBMIT-LINKS.COM me: i HAVE THE CHAT LOGS mission_khalsa Singh: ok sorry mission_khalsa Singh: i agree all my mistakes. just ban me from ur life if u want. me: I am sending a warning out about you now mission_khalsa Singh: please dont ban me from internet i have already suffered a lot from sites mission_khalsa Singh: please.... mission_khalsa Singh: you are like at my father's age mission_khalsa Singh: mission_khalsa Singh: pleae forgive your son mission_khalsa Singh: me: oh I will do all I can to make sure you dont hurt another mission_khalsa Singh: please mission_khalsa Singh: i promise god i wont hurt anyone mission_khalsa Singh: my motive wasnt stealing revenue, i just wanted to try me: your adsense code was on every page mission_khalsa Singh: i m sorry mission_khalsa Singh: no mission_khalsa Singh: i sway it wasnt me: well you are in shit now mission_khalsa Singh: rest is your wish. i m ready to accept ur decision mission_khalsa Singh: BUZZ!!! mission_khalsa Singh: my adsense was not all over. i sway mission_khalsa Singh: maybe it was not mine someone else's me: I have proof me: no it was yours mission_khalsa Singh: it was on just single frontpage mission_khalsa Singh: NO WHERE ELSE me: you cant change just one on that site mission_khalsa Singh: if u want i can place ur adsense on my all major sites for 2 MONTHS mission_khalsa Singh: we can me: you change one you change all mission_khalsa Singh: no me: ha ha me: you wont have sites no more mission_khalsa Singh: pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee mission_khalsa Singh: plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz me: nor adsense mission_khalsa Singh: its a request me: screw you me: theif mission_khalsa Singh: wasnt this enough that i had told you the truth?? mission_khalsa Singh: mission_khalsa Singh: anyways never mind me: look ... I told you google was shutting down websites yesterday of the people who put their code on my pages mission_khalsa Singh: its my age to study and i m trying on internet revenue mission_khalsa Singh: sorry me: thats why you come and say this now me: you knew you were in DP me: deep shit mission_khalsa Singh: that i wud have said even if i had remember that me: so yeah you got honest mission_khalsa Singh: doesnt matter mission_khalsa Singh: do anything mission_khalsa Singh: i dont want adsense or anything else me: ok I will mission_khalsa Singh: i like the world out of this box mission_khalsa Singh: more mission_khalsa Singh: so how are you me: coward me: run but you will not hide mission_khalsa Singh: sorry mission_khalsa Singh: me: ok we shall see mission_khalsa Singh: after i complete my studies you have to get me a job mission_khalsa Singh: lol me: asshole me: I got your job mission_khalsa Singh: mission_khalsa Singh: mission_khalsa Singh: toilet cleaner? me: just go away mission_khalsa Singh: ok His websites are www.Punjabnewsline.com www.Punjabimp3.net www.Myspacematrix.com http://www.myspacematrix.com/ http://punjabimp3.net/ http://punjabisong.info/ http://blogspots.info/ http://ajaxed.info/ http://getjoomla.info/ http://hidemyip.net/ http://top.blogspots.info/ http://unitedpunjab.com/ http://webicio.us/ http://sikhspace.com
OMG this is another event where Adsense pub - ID is replaced by these Theifs I know this guy and hope you remember david , i told you these kids should be kept away from us. They learn a little bit hacking , keylogging and feel they know everything in the world. I would suggest you to mail his host and block all his sites and his domains. This will be like a punishment to him and stop him from doing these things again. You should also never give ftp to anyone or else shouold change the passwords once your job is done. I know you have a large network of sites and Losing hard earned revenue this way is a real loss. I just had a CHAT with that Guy on gmail david - me: So what did u do? to his sites? gurpartap: lol nothing just put 1 ad for less than 1 day [tongue] me: But why the hell did u do that? do u think its good or a timepass thing? gurpartap: i wanted to see he's lieing. as he said he didnt earned more than 2 dollars per day [tongue] he waas right i earned only 24 cents from it [tongue] lol me: You know he can sue you gurpartap: sue=? me: Well whats the use he make 1$ or 100$/day . you lost one good friend and did a wrong thing keepiung your pub - ID on this Sites adsense can ban your account gurpartap: yeah.. me: and also he can cancel all your sites from checking the whois gurpartap: i m regretting for that [frown] me: your can lose everything and also he can send legal authorities to your place dude dont think this is a joke and all same thing happened to me last week and now the hackers site and adsense account is banned gurpartap: what are you saying about legal dude? me: didnt you cheat him? is that a legal thing u did to him? Did he allow you to keep your pub-ID in his site? gurpartap: i neither meant to steal anything nor cheat me: Then in what meaning you kept your code? gurpartap: he said he earns less with adsense. like less than 2$ he showed me a copy paste i didnt knew it wud turn this wya way me: so you simply changed his logins. you mean to say if i say that you will also hack my sites? gurpartap: no i cannot he himself gave me access to cpanel of that site me: he didnt give you for the site you kept adsense gurpartap: i m sorry about that [frown] Sent at 12:31 PM on Wednesday gurpartap: i dont know what to do now. if he wants to cancel my adsense. ok i dont want it i m willing to take retirement from this internet revenue. its distracking me from studies [frown] me: As u wish. gurpartap: amitpatel.3001: so you simply changed his logins. you mean to say if i say that you will also hack my sites? i didnt change any login. i didnt do anything such not at all
In reply he was never given the ftp acess to that domain he never had any need or reason to have it. He is a theif and a hacker, and No he didnt just change the adsense on 1 page it was ALL pages. and that site makes more than 24 cents per day http://www.alexa.com/data/details/t...ze=large&compare_sites=&y=r&url=ezinecrow.com And the code was there for more than one day for sure
hell, you seriously did dish it out to him, I mean language wise. But the funny thing is the more you swore at him the more he admitted to hacking your account. On the other hand, I just checked if the links I bought from him are still on his page, and they are. so maybe he is a kid and did screw up. But I'm guessing you know best the damage that he did to your site and only you can put a monetary value to your loss. Anyway, best of luck to you.
Hmm.. like others say, punish him! He should feel it. Contact his host and bring all his sites down and even make a formal complain to adsense team. Let them sue him off!
I made this post to ALERT other members of this guy in case they have had dealings with him! Check your sites ... even if you have only chatted with him on IM
He's a Kid for sure and following is the CHAT continued with him - He says he does not fear saying no one can cancel his hosts abd bring his sites down.
Thanks for the alert, I appreciate it. I'll contact Google about this too - so he can lose his accounts.
Damn Crow, Pisses me off just reading it! I agree punishment is necessary, excuses are not acceptable this is the real world if your not mature enough to tell the difference between right/wrong then you don't belong in this market. What pisses me off the most is he doesn't even feel like he did anything wrong in his conversation with amit. BTW: I've worked with almost 20 coders now in the last 5-6 months and I just want to point this out no offense to anybody, but anyways take just take this as you please... About 7 off them have been from India, 4 off the guys got in huge arguments with me over completion of projects and had to be put in RAC arbitration where all 4 lost, and 3 where banned from RAC. 2 others from the 7 did not meet deadlines and dissapeared completely, wasting my time. And the last but definetly not the least has resorted to spamming me consistenly on Yahoo Messenger to the point where I stay offline now. Anyways just to put it in perspective the 13 other project worked on with people from US, Neetherlands, Russia, and Romania, 10 were completed with out problem, 1 group has become my coders, and the last 2 were light arbitrations with agreement. Anways what I'm trying to say, and sorry if it offends anyone but it is not meant that way, is that majority of these type of experiences and a lot of stories of click fraud, scamming and etc. with me, some of my friends, and stories here on DP have stemmed from young people from India, which I'm guessing this guy is As I said take it as you please......just telling you my experiences...
You know the worst thing about it all is the kid is really smart and I liked him alot. I would have helped him in any way I could. This post wasnt meant to destroy him, but to make people aware that he did it! I pray he will never do it again and do the right thing .. He has asked me to forgive him which I have because that is part of my beleifs. But I cannot forget and as a fellow DP member I felt it was important for them to know because many of us make our living on this stuff. I have some great friends from india but it does seem like there is a group of young ones on DP here playing games.. They ruin it for the hardworking honest Indians who are a great part of our community ..but I am sure there are other people from other origins doing that too.
True, but there is overwhelming disrepency, between young people from India and others. I'm saying this because this experience that you have gone through has happened to me like 4 times and sometimes even worse, everytime I chatted with them come with the same apologies and when you tell them that they are not forgiven they go crazy, spamming, annoying, even death threats I would tell you this happens a lot on Rentacoder.com they come with their cheap bits and hook you and then this happens, all I'm saying is protect yourself. From my multiple experiences I have become extremely hesitant hiring people from India at all on RAC, unless rating is very high, but I would give you tip that when you look at the ratings check how many different users rated them I found that some even go as far as setting up fake jobs to get better ratings Be carefull, Good Luck Crow BTW: How much money did you loose from that? Over $10?
I would venture to say yes because it is one of my better sites for income and I dont know how many days he had it on there.. I would say about 5-7 days He claims 24 cents - I would have a hard time beleiving that
Money is not the issue here. Main thing is Faith and belief MrCrow had on him and he cheated him. this guy and other other guy here http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=84114 Both have cheated others. Seeing in a bigger way these people are making everyone lose reputation. I would say JUST PUNISH THEM
Im glad you as an Indian understand, it is not meant to hurt but dealing with Indian people is very tricky online now days they are like seperated on two extremes some smart, hardworking, and diligent business man and other complete scammers, spammers, and thiefs, and the young ones seem to sway to the latter Emil
Again Bad news on indian part. I don know why some indians are looking for some quick bucks and letting other indians down. All i can say that be just careful while dealing anyone on internet whether its form india or any other country.
This is 2nd time, where i felt ashamed that this work is done by another Indian . his sites seems looks like punjabi. and we must want to punish them, these type of fraud cheaters.
All I can say mr crow, that this guys is really scared now lol! Look at the chat, please forgive your son blablabla! LOL Just report this guy and others just watch what you are doing!
You cannot point your finger at Indians .. there are scammers all around.. its for you whom to trust and whom not to.. I agree that you may have found two extreme categories ... but its for you to pick out the better half rather than going out for those cheap scammers, spammers and thiefs .... Correct me if I am wrong ... but such scammers, spammers and thiefs (young or old really doesnt matter) are found in every country... so lets try and find ways to stop or minimize these scams
damn, that sucks! if anyone ever asks for ssh, i'd tell them to go f* themselves a new one. There should be a 'hall of shame' forum, listing any and all people who have done somethng like this.