Weight seems to fluctuate almost guaranteed. I thought of something that might calm down a lot of people who freak out the minute it drops. If your current weight would be an average of the last 3 days or so (only takes a few extra db table columns I'd imagine) then you'd iron out these temporal peaks and troughs (maybe even a 5 day average discarding 1 high and 1 low) and people would harldy notice the flux if one day the weight was 0 or low. Still, if it did fail validation or legitimately dropped, then over time the weight will go down anyway so it remains fair. It would clean up the forum as well with a huge reduction in 'My Weight Went Walkies' threads. At least half of them prove to be temporal glitch anyway. What do you guys and girls think of this suggestion?
I think it's a great suggestion... It would save a lot of uneeded posts (Hopefully)... I have no idea how much work is involved, but like I say, it would stop a lot of needless posts.
Revalidating always seems to help - sometimes when starting a new account, it's worth validating multiple times, checking between a couple of folders, to see what to expect. 2c.
Very true and is exactly what I always do. Sometimes even leave it 24hrs if I can't be bothered. But this 'delayed avergare' system will certainly smooth things out and make it a less bumpy ride IMO. It's not a real transparent system to begin with so it can be rather confusing. Fluctuating weight only adds to that so this should work out well, especially for the inexperienced. As far as programming is concerned, it would only require a few more fields in the DB and some arithmetics for the weight.
This could also prevent big sudden jumps in backlinks which might seem unnatural in Google's eyes. With this proposed system it would only gradually increase/decrease over a few days. I know it takes up to 100 hours anyway for changes to come through on the live end of the network but it could be an additional safety feature.
I certainly can't think of any reason not to do it. It'll prolly result in more confidence for the newbies too. As for the revalidation thing - me too
I didn't want to start another thread because you guys must get fed up of newbies to the coop network I joined up to the coop a while back but my forum was taking sometime to get indexed in Google, finally I have over 600 pages in Google, so I put up the coop ads. What weight would you expect to get for this number of pages (potential to have over 1,000 pages when they all get indexed) and what weight would you expect to see your ad regular on other coop members sites? Cheers Darren
I'd like to bump this suggestion again because of the latest issues with the API and the resulting Co-op weight issues. People with perfectly validating sites get 0 weight because the API reports what seems to be crap. Implementing this suggestion would deal with most of it.
Its weird though that the two sites that i use for the COOP have had no fluctuations at all over the last two maybe even three months. Still i dont think it will do any harm to have this extra kind of feature.
If weight calculation is based on PR, pages indexed, and the number of ads, then it should NOT fluctuate. This is because PR and paged index (via google API) do not change very often at all. Note that site:domain may change but I found that page indexed via google API has not chnaged for months.
theoretically, you're right. but the fact is that many users have perfectly valid sites and are having issues w/ the weight coming + going on a daily basis. i've had this issue for the past 2 or so weeks, w/ a quality PR4 site...4k+ pages indexed, and no changes have been made. weight goes from 54k to 0, then back and forth all the time. the other day it then hit 29k for bit..then back up, then back down. this -shouldn't- be happening, but it is...so there's an issue w/ either the API or how it's being used on DP's end.
I too like so many others have been experiencing severe fluctuations. This morning for example, one of my sites - www.wakulla.com went from 36k to 0. I revalidated, it stayed at 0. Then periodically over the next few hours I revalidated every 15-20 minutes - it stayed at 0. Finally it came back at 11k. An hour later I thought I'd try again and it went back to zero. I just did it one more time and now it’s back to 36k. Based on past experience I'm certain that one more validation would set it back to 0. -jay P.S. Not complaining just posting my observations.
I agree that there are things that we dont understand and it would be useful to have more info instead of us speculating. I would suggest that the info used for weight calculation should be displayed along the weight (the formula can remain secret: 1) # of pages indexed 2) PR 3) Number of ads 4) if applicable, the link that does not have ads So we know exactly where is the problem. Comments?