I just wanted to bring this up for others running ypn, it looks like the fun is over.

Discussion in 'Publisher Network' started by phpbbforfree, Apr 29, 2006.

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    I'm sure you read my thread about me getting terminated, then another dp member piped up saying he was terminated this week in my thread, then another dp member just pointed out they were terminated for poorly converting traffic or its what I gather from this thread and then reports his friend did too, and on webmasterworld a user posted about how he knows of 3 other big publishers that were canned this week as well.

    Does anyone else find this weird, well not weird but how all this is happening now? How all this has just happened this week? Like now they are doing quality control of their program, which means that if they don't like your site even though you are making them money if it isn't converting for the advertisers then they will boot you.

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet.
     
    phpbbforfree, Apr 29, 2006 IP
  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Interesting!

    AdSense doesn't boot you for not converting, but I believe that they "smart price" you.
     
    Will.Spencer, Apr 29, 2006 IP
  3. phpbbforfree

    phpbbforfree Well-Known Member

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    correct, its also the fact that is it really the publishers fault the targetting system of ypn isn't as good as adsense? Should the publishers be banned from beta cause they can put high paying ads not relevant to the content of their page on their sites and people click but it converts poorly?
     
    phpbbforfree, Apr 29, 2006 IP
  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Publishers should be banned from anything which does not bring value to the Advertisers!
     
    Will.Spencer, Apr 29, 2006 IP
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    bluegill_catcher Active Member

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    I talked with a close friend last night, who was also just banned from ypn. He got notified about 'non converting site status'. His site has NOTHING to do with MySpace etc. He had recently targeted his low paying mini sites to show ads that were high paying according to the Overture tool, that even I am (or was) using.

    He asked the guy if this was the reason, and was told ..... not a direct quote, but as I was told 'If a publisher attempts to use the targeting tool to mainly show ads that pay a high earning, and the ads are NOT relevant to his sites content, then clearly this is creating a site that will have non relevant ads, and will result in no or low conversions for the advertisers, such as in sales, newsletter signups, memberships, etc............

    So we clearly now have two factors that can get you banned at anytime, non usa traffic (no percentage specified that bans you), and non relevant targeted ads. In otherwords if you have a site about fishing, do NOT target ads about realestate or financial, or any other non related subject etc... you better make sure if you target the ad category that its JUST LIKE your sites theme, content, etc, and if there is none, DO NOT use targeting, let ypns own system show the ads, or you may find yourself heading to AdSense or worse
     
    bluegill_catcher, Apr 29, 2006 IP
  6. xboxundone

    xboxundone Well-Known Member

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    It seems YAHOO does a weed out towards the end of every month.
     
    xboxundone, Apr 29, 2006 IP
  7. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Umm.... of course....

    What do you think adsense would do if you put the ads in a frame on your site, and then filled that framed page with non related keywords to higher paying ads?

    That sounds pretty reasonable to me. Targetting non-related categories is taking advantage of flaws in their program, and it's abusing their program.

    If you abuse them, you should expect nothing less than to be banned.

    I seriously can't believe anyone thinks they have anything to complain about with YPN. The "funs over" .... no, it was never supposed to be fun, this is a huge corporation trying to conduct a business, they're serious about what they're doing. Not only do they pay 400% better than adsense (their biggest competitor), they also communicate with you and have a telephone number you can call. Adsense has never offered any real communication and will ban your account for much, much less.
     
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  8. MisterZee

    MisterZee Peon

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    That's good news, although they could have communicated the rule a bit better. They let you target ads according to your site user's "interests"...so it may seem a bit unfair, but some serious quality control is needed. Hopefully those not cheating will benefit from the housecleaning.
     
    MisterZee, Apr 29, 2006 IP
  9. wentworth

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    Sorry but these threads are so annoying. There is more than one way to skin a cat. If you invested all your time in YPN that was your first mistake.

    Do you also put all your money in one bank account?:rolleyes:
     
    wentworth, Apr 29, 2006 IP
  10. nt99

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    What are you talking about? YPN clearly gives us the option to target anything we deem appropriate for our audience. Who ar ethey to say what's targeted for our audience? And it should be stated CLEARLY ON THE AD TARGETING PAGE that you aren't allowed to target irrelevant categories, if it'll get you banned.

    The most frustrating thing is that they're banning people for things that they were never clear on to begin with. That IS unfair.
     
    nt99, May 2, 2006 IP
  11. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Umm... it's their program, they make the rules.

    Tough luck. Life isn't fair.
     
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  12. liquidboy

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    nt99 ypn allows you to target AS LONG AS IT CONVERTS. If you target to ads that have no relevancy to your site but are high paying, and you dont have good conversion rates with them then ypn has the right to remove them for the benefit of the publisher.

    Im a publisher and i want good conversion rates, if your site can't give me that then bugger off!
     
    liquidboy, May 2, 2006 IP
  13. Greg-J

    Greg-J I humbly return to you.

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    Preech on brother.
     
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  14. xboxundone

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    Yep as an advertiser and i publisher I want it both ways!! cheap advertising that pays well... but high pay clicks /converts.... thank goodness i advertise in one niche and am a publisher in another :)
     
    xboxundone, May 3, 2006 IP