Could you survive if stuck with Notepad ?

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by joebert, Nov 22, 2007.

  1. #1
    Imagine one day you went into work.
    When you got to work you discovered from then on you're stuck using only Notepad.
    Could you survive ?

    This is Notepad only, no Adobe or Macromedia Dreamweaver, no Crimson Editor, no HTML-Kit, no Notepad2, no Microsoft Front Page, no First Page, nothing else.

    What do you think would be toughest for you to deal with if put in such a situation ?
     
    joebert, Nov 22, 2007 IP
  2. LiquidIce

    LiquidIce Peon

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    #2
    note pad would be fine if i needed anything google or view source :)
     
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  3. AstarothSolutions

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    #3
    We could survive but it would make development slower than using Visual Studio
     
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    I'd find it a pain in the ass not having things like Synchronise and built-in FTP.

    I'd struggle with remembering the CSS attributes, I almost ALWAYS use auto-complete with that stuff.
     
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  5. DonCash

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    I mainly use nothing but notepad even now. I program for a living and I started writing HTML in notepad well over 8 years ago. I like to use the CuteFTP editor once the files are uploaded but using nothing but notepad isnt a problem for me. The main reason I like the CuteFTP editor is for the syntax highlighting.. Makes things a little easier on the eyes.
     
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  6. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    #6
    Survive, hell I'd probably thrive... I use win32pad as my normal editor, and the only thing that adds over notepad is a column of line numbers and recent files... turn the status bar on and there's your line numbers.

    It certainly would be faster than the bloated fat overhead and bullshit that comes with crap wysiwygs like dreamweaver.
     
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  7. mtrans

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    notepad is integrated from O/S. it's free
    other brand need money to buy it
     
    mtrans, Nov 22, 2007 IP
  8. Jamie18

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    #8
    the places notepad lacks in aren't exactly critical.. syntax highlighting, auto-complete for tags and properties..

    i don't think it would be hard at all to survive creating and editing your own stuff in notepad..

    but i started in nano which basically has nothing

    however, i think if you had to edit someone else's pages, including javascript, css, html and serverside code.. if you weren't familiar with their programming style.. the lack of syntax highlighting would definitely slow down the process..
     
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  9. mikemdg

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    Yes.... but why :)
    I know someone that still edits all his pages through ftp using notepad.

    Maybe the question should be - how long would it take you to go crazy if you had to develop all day using notepad only! (does this mean I have to do my photoshop work in ASCII too?)
     
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  10. joebert

    joebert Well-Known Member

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    #10
    No, only work saved as non-binary files.

    [X]HTML, CSS, XML, JS, PHP, etc.
     
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    Yeah I could work with just notepad but it would be tedious.
     
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    Yeah, I could survive, it'd just take a bit longer as i'd be typing everything out, not letting the program finish things for me and close tags etc for me.
     
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  13. soulscratch

    soulscratch Well-Known Member

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    I would kill myself. Not because I don't know how to code, but because of weird ass bugs that just make it a painful experience. I've always ran across this weird behavior in Notepad where if you CTRL+S too often (I do it naturally after typing a line or two of code) the cursor moves up to some random position one line above and a few to the left and I have to CTRL+END myself back to where I was. And a few other things that piss me off:

    Most windows programs have CTRL SHIFT S to save as and Notepad doesn't even support that. It has No line numbers nor syntax highlighting.
    Why the fuck is the replace shortcut CTRL H? Why not CTRL R? I would have to resort to arrows (left/right/bottom/top) and they're slow as hell because I'm used to VIM's hjkl doing that for me. Also I'd have to use all the slow windows keys like ctrl/shift end/home/pageup/pagedown which are leagues away from the home row and would slow my progress down.
    Delete a word in front of my cursor? ctrl + shift + right arrow + backspace. SLOW. How about just "L" and "DW" ? Delete a whole line? ctrl shift home/end depending on where you are, and backspace. Much slower than "DD". Hundreds of other faster ways to do things if you use VIM.

    Normal text editors limit you, VIM doesn't.
     
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  14. deathshadow

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    Interesting, I've never used that - since alt-f s is just as fast and more intuitive since it's spelled out on the menu (and is no more keystrokes) - but there are a lot of shortcuts people use

    WOW, I've never heard anyone complain about that in that direction - usually the complaint is certain keys NOT working right... like say the arrows on the numeric keypad when num lock is off. (I've been using PC's for so long, I have to boot with num-lock off because back in the day there WAS no arrow pad).

    Faster? Nah, impossible to remember is more like it - man, you'd have loved wordstar.
     
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  15. Technokinetics

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    The only problem would be the lack of line numbers for debugging. That aside, I wouldn't notice the difference.
     
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  16. joebert

    joebert Well-Known Member

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    What if I told you CTRL+G would take you to whichever line you wanted ?
     
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    Isn't that a shortcut in Dreamweaver (and some other programs) and not Notepad?
     
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    soulscratch Well-Known Member

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    Huh? Isn't that just a regular save (aka CTRL-S) ? Alt-f A is "Save As" in Notepad.
     
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  19. joebert

    joebert Well-Known Member

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    I tried it before I brought it up.
     
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  20. MoonlightxSonata

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    #20
    I wouldn't mind. I've used NotePad only for years. Then I discovered Top Style Pro for CSS documents. That one's helpful.
     
    MoonlightxSonata, Nov 22, 2007 IP