Digital Point Forums
Winn Law Group

Go Back   Digital Point Forums > Search Engines > Google
Google Analytics
Log In to view
your analytics

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 7:21 am
Actor Mike's Avatar
Actor Mike Actor Mike is offline
Hand of A'dal
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: London
Posts: 333
Actor Mike will become famous soon enough
Could you survive without Google?

Ever since the PageRank bitch slap a couple of weeks ago, I've read on so many forums and blogs that Google are evil, that Google are the anti-Christ, that Google need to be taught a lesson, that Google are being anti-competitive, etc...

In essence a lot of folks are pretty unhappy with Big G right now

However everyone is still wanting to keep in Google's good books so that they can continue to get search traffic. It kinda makes sense, right? Let's face it, Google are the biggest search engine out there and you don't want to piss them off.

I've been thinking about whether or not any of my sites could survive without some Google loving. Could using social media power sufficient traffic to make search engine traffic irrelevant? Would adopting a more proactive approach to getting quality inbound links still pay the bills?

Could I survive without Google?

If you're thinking the same then it might be worth following this story. Vlad the Affiliate has just ditched Google. He's changed his robots.txt file to disallow the Googlebot and submitted a request via Webmaster Tools for his site to be removed from the index.

What he's telling Big G is that he's not prepared to bend over and take it every time they want to move the goalposts.

I've got to hand it to the fella. What he's done is what a lot of the folks who have been whinging and wining about Google over the last few weeks haven't got the balls to do.

It'll be interesting to see how it pans out for him.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 8:22 am
conker_on_net's Avatar
conker_on_net conker_on_net is offline
Champion of the Naaru
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 153
conker_on_net is on a distinguished road
In all honesty - I would have to make some monumentus changes (optimise for yahoo and msn). Even then I don't know if I would get by.

So to answer your question: Probably not!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 8:24 am
cosmocentral cosmocentral is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 349
cosmocentral is on a distinguished road
It would be tough. Hey nothing lasts forever. Something new will come up.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 8:27 am
wisdomtool's Avatar
wisdomtool wisdomtool is offline
Moderator
Recent Blog: Virus and Malware
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Melbourne Sinagpore
Posts: 14,537
wisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond repute
Phone Verified
We can if Yahoo, Microsoft pick up their acts and be strong competitors to Google. At this moment no. Google is too fast for them.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 8:29 am
conker_on_net's Avatar
conker_on_net conker_on_net is offline
Champion of the Naaru
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 153
conker_on_net is on a distinguished road
That is very true, it wold be very Darwin esq. The weak disappear and the strong adapt.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 8:30 am
mizaks's Avatar
mizaks mizaks is offline
of the Nightfall
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: thecriticalcritics.com
Posts: 1,981
mizaks is a name known to allmizaks is a name known to allmizaks is a name known to allmizaks is a name known to allmizaks is a name known to allmizaks is a name known to all
Of course I can survive without Google. Without sex and beer, now that is another story . . .
__________________
------------------------------------------------
Movie Reviews by The Critical Critics | Movie Critics Wanted!
------------------------------------------------
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 8:32 am
Scorpio Scorpio is offline
Hand of A'dal
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 252
Scorpio is on a distinguished road
I can't give a totally honest answer here.. May be I do need them to an extent
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 8:33 am
wisdomtool's Avatar
wisdomtool wisdomtool is offline
Moderator
Recent Blog: Virus and Malware
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Melbourne Sinagpore
Posts: 14,537
wisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond reputewisdomtool has a reputation beyond repute
Phone Verified
I was hoping for Widgetbucks to grow stronger to be a threat to Google, hopefully the current bad news about them aren't true.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 8:33 am
cosmocentral cosmocentral is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 349
cosmocentral is on a distinguished road
I think we can live quite well even without Google. Lets say Google goes out of business tomorrow. Users will just start using other search engines. Water from one bottle to another thats all. There gonna be some reorganize of course, we can call it system loss.

Last edited by cosmocentral; Nov 11th 2007 at 9:54 am.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 8:41 am
conker_on_net's Avatar
conker_on_net conker_on_net is offline
Champion of the Naaru
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 153
conker_on_net is on a distinguished road
but could you survive if google did still exist, but they banned your site or something. Personally I would have to change my game big time.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 8:42 am
Actor Mike's Avatar
Actor Mike Actor Mike is offline
Hand of A'dal
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: London
Posts: 333
Actor Mike will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by mizaks View Post
Of course I can survive without Google. Without sex and beer, now that is another story . . .
Fair point!

I'm becoming more of the opinion that social media will be what drives traffic in the future. I'm not talking years down the line, either. I'm thinking over the next 12-18 months.

When I first came online (mid 90's cuz I'm an old fart) the only way to find information was via the search engines and even they sucked. Today's newbie, however, will already be aware of social media sites and will be more likely to use them for search rather than just blindly turn to Google, for example.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 8:47 am
Nora's Avatar
Nora Nora is offline
of the Nightfall
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 1,738
Nora has a spectacular aura aboutNora has a spectacular aura aboutNora has a spectacular aura about
I couldn't.. all other search engines are horrible compared to Google.
__________________
Free Vectors | Photoshop Brushes
looking for logos or vector illustrations? pm me! (:
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 9:34 am
bookit2freedom bookit2freedom is offline
Peon
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 11
bookit2freedom is on a distinguished road
you could survive without google if you are determined enough, but since everyone uses google, you will miss out on the 80% of the people that only use google.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 10:01 am
seo daddy seo daddy is offline
Hand of A'dal
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 410
seo daddy is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by mizaks View Post
Of course I can survive without Google. Without sex and beer, now that is another story . . .
Too true!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 10:33 am
satangod's Avatar
satangod satangod is offline
Champion of the Naaru
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Punjab
Posts: 246
satangod is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by mizaks View Post
Of course I can survive without Google. Without sex and beer, now that is another story . . .
Pick one choice 1. google
2. sex
3. alcohol
__________________
See who is at Top 10 in this World at Top 10 Ratings

Increase your Adsense earnings with these Special Keywords
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 11:14 am
ahelpinghand
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Could I survive without Google: Yes
Would I like to ban Google bots: Of course not!

I'm sure it's not right to relay on one source of traffic (whether Google or not), if most of your users come from Google, it's your problem not Google's. I use Google myself for all my searching because they are the best and that's what all people I know do. I strongly believe that Google has all the right to do whatever they want with their algorithms, it's simply their right as it's my right to do whatever I want with my sites. Social media traffic is not sable at all and most of them won't even bookmark my site. Let's face it: Google is No.1 search engine, it's very easy to ban their bots if you hate Google, as easy as shutting down your site!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 2:14 pm
seo daddy seo daddy is offline
Hand of A'dal
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 410
seo daddy is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by satangod View Post
Pick one choice 1. google
2. sex
3. alcohol

You seem confused

Try

Quote:
Originally Posted by seo daddy
1. sex
2. google
3. alcohol
Man can live without adsense and money.....(just)
but procreation is the key to a new generation of adsense warriors
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 2:18 pm
sandrodz's Avatar
sandrodz sandrodz is offline
of the Nightfall
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,252
sandrodz will become famous soon enoughsandrodz will become famous soon enough
my site won't last a day without google no actually I don't care, this is my hobby not a job
__________________
Digital photography - Pro Photographer Blog
Chill-out music - Listen to music for FREE
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 2:21 pm
Actor Mike's Avatar
Actor Mike Actor Mike is offline
Hand of A'dal
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: London
Posts: 333
Actor Mike will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahelpinghand View Post
Could I survive without Google: Yes
Would I like to ban Google bots: Of course not!

I'm sure it's not right to relay on one source of traffic (whether Google or not), if most of your users come from Google, it's your problem not Google's. I use Google myself for all my searching because they are the best and that's what all people I know do. I strongly believe that Google has all the right to do whatever they want with their algorithms, it's simply their right as it's my right to do whatever I want with my sites. Social media traffic is not sable at all and most of them won't even bookmark my site. Let's face it: Google is No.1 search engine, it's very easy to ban their bots if you hate Google, as easy as shutting down your site!
OK so what would you do if, for whatever reason, Big G banned your site? According to your logic it would fall over and die.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you have to.

Google have got to be the big bullies in the play ground. Does that make them right?

You're spot on with what you say about it's Googles right to do whatever they like with their algo. It's also our right to do whatever we like with Google, right?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old Nov 11th 2007, 3:52 pm
vanquishdesign's Avatar
vanquishdesign vanquishdesign is offline
Hand of A'dal
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Monaco
Posts: 314
vanquishdesign is on a distinguished road
If google died tomorrow, something else would take its place.
__________________
Get a REAL College Degree in 5 days 30% Commission HIGH CONVERSION
The SECRET to success. Ram only ONE product down visitors throats!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Survive Traffic - Survive the digg effect Jako Web Hosting 2 Oct 23rd 2007 5:14 am
Survive Traffic - Survive the digg effect Jako Web Hosting 0 Oct 15th 2007 3:44 pm
Survive Traffic - Survive the digg effect Jako Web Hosting 4 Oct 15th 2007 12:40 pm
Survive Digg - Survive the digg effect Jako Web Hosting 0 Mar 20th 2007 5:56 pm
How to Survive the Google AdWords Update of July 2006 wishmaster22 Google AdWords 2 Jul 28th 2006 6:26 am


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 8:13 am.