Yahoo Account terminated

[majid]

Our Yahoo account is terminated because of international traffic.Our websites are based in USA and also our main traffic is from here.

This is very bad news for us as we worked very hard on our websites and without any warnings our account is terminated.All the traffic was real and no click fraud.

We are very upset.

Thanks.

[Lpspider]

Sucks to be you.

[yo-yo]

You're account is terminated and that's you're only post?

So as soon as you got terminated your first thought was to sign up at Digital Point and complain about them? Makes sense...

[fryman]

As if we didn't have enough with the "adsense banned me" threads... now we are starting to get these "yahoo banned me" threads...


Guess I need to search for another "not this shit again" image to use on these posts

[mostwanted]

I don't believe this...
My main reason is this...
I had a site that at one point was making way over $100 a day on most days... I can tell you that ALOT of my visitors were international... I have recieved checks from Y! with no problems and there were only a few days that were adjusted.. but thats it... I'm still here and since that site I am now concentrated on one site at the moment.. Not using that other site (under construction) not sureif I am going to open it or not yet... Just trying to make a point...

Maybe I was lucky... not sure...

[SkiRat44]

WTF don't you believe? You think people are coming on here and pretending to be banned from YPN? I had a site similar to yours that earned more revenue, with 70% US, and now I'm out of YPN.

You might be lucky, but luck doesn't last forever. I'd stop posting smilies and worry about how you're going to make money once YPN Bans you.

[yo-yo]

Originally Posted by SkiRat44

WTF don't you believe?

That YPN is banning honest webmasters who have 70% US Traffic.

Originally Posted by SkiRat44

You think people are coming on here and pretending to be banned from YPN?

I think a lot of people are doing "unethical" practices in one way or another, and when banned from YPN for "Reasons including but not limited to International Traffic" they whine and complain.

Originally Posted by SkiRat44

I'd stop posting smilies and worry about how you're going to make money once YPN Bans you.

If he's not cheating the system he should sit back and enjoy counting his money

[majid]

Just posted here because i was very disappointed.

Thanks for your help.

[trivum]

You're account is terminated and that's you're only post?

Actually, I think it's a pretty important post. People need to know that it's happening to a lot of people. And if those who it happens to want to vent their frustration here, I think that's important too. If it continues to happen (people getting banned without warning, without knowing how much is too much, etc.), and enough people get angry, it could change the way people look at Yahoo. That's one purpose for these types of sites - to communicate what's been happening to you so that others will know and therefore they will have a larger picture of the world they operate in.

I understand that people get tired of these posts, but I'm sure that people get tired of being banned even more.

[grantmd]

Originally Posted by yo-yo

That YPN is banning honest webmasters who have 70% US Traffic.


I think a lot of people are doing "unethical" practices in one way or another, and when banned from YPN for "Reasons including but not limited to International Traffic" they whine and complain.


If he's not cheating the system he should sit back and enjoy counting his money

I have to take offense at this. I was one of the first people on this forum talking about being banned for international traffic. That was the one and only thing I did "wrong". Since then, I've been very open on these forums about my circumstances (check my other posts) for two reasons:

1) I think what YPN did to me and others without warning is unfair when they let others slide with *any* percentage of international traffic. Their TOS state you are in violation if you show a single ad to a single international visitor. If they're going to kick me out for showing 100,000 ads, or 10,000 ads, or 1,000 ads or whatever, when everything else I did was right -- then they need to kick everyone else who ever showed a single ad to any international visitor. That's what the rules say.

2) Make sure other YPN publishers are aware of what's happening, so that they can prepare for if they get kicked out without warning (and it's starting to happen again).

I can appreciate that some of these posters come once to say they were banned for international traffic and never return. Some of them may be lying. Some of them may have been kicked for other reasons. But not me, and not some of the others here.

[albemarle24]

Ok dumb question.....

How in the world can any webmaster on the planet control who visits a site?

And why would they?

I see yahoo's side, in terms of devious tactics, but I can't see the relevance of some amount international traffic.

I have other axes to grind with yahoo, but that's another story alltogether.......

[melfan]

Originally Posted by albemarle24

Ok dumb question.....

How in the world can any webmaster on the planet control who visits a site?

And why would they?

I see yahoo's side, in terms of devious tactics, but I can't see the relevance of some amount international traffic.

I have other axes to grind with yahoo, but that's another story alltogether.......

To filter your traffic and determine what ads should be shown, you can use geo targeting scripts such as:

Geo-Ads PHP
Maxmind Database (ASP)

[toomuch72]

Originally Posted by grantmd

Their TOS state you are in violation if you show a single ad to a single international visitor. If they're going to kick me out for showing 100,000 ads, or 10,000 ads, or 1,000 ads or whatever, when everything else I did was right -- then they need to kick everyone else who ever showed a single ad to any international visitor. That's what the rules say.

In a strange way I agree with this... Not to see everyone kicked out of the program but to make the playing field Even.
I never thought that I would get kicked out for international traffic either because my US traffic was around 70%, as well.

Now the question that prolly has to be asked is who WAS CLICKING?
You could have 90% us traffic but if all of that 10% percent of the traffic was clicking chances are you will still get kicked out.

Nice part about my NON US visitors seems to be better targeted traffic(maybe better directory links or whatnot) and more likely to pay attention to the site when they got here. So at least for my site they seem to buy or click.

As far as Geo scripts are concerned. I was talking with another webmaster who also was removed from the program for international clicks who had these scripts in place. Most Of the IP databases are not complete and can still let a considerable amount of non US traffic through. So don't trust these either.

[fryman]

Originally Posted by majid

Just posted here because i was very disappointed.

Thanks for your help.

Help? What do you want us to do? Hit the unban button?

[toomuch72]

Originally Posted by fryman

Help? What do you want us to do? Hit the unban button?

You know I would be the first to jump down people throats for purposely Violating TOS agreements. In fact If you look up my posts you will prolly see alot of me doing that over on the Adsense section.
But.....
International traffic is not a ON PURPOSE Violation. Nobody can truely gauge and control internet traffic.
Still.... On that same note it is a violation of the TOS(to send any non US traffic) but the TOS only states there will be adjusted earnings and not outright bannings.

We regret that the Yahoo! Publisher Network beta does not currently support publishers whose primary audience is located outside the United States

Then we deal with this statement--so 51% US makes US the primary traffic. So Am I seeing a problem when webmasters with 70% are getting removed?


So don't go jumping down peoples throats right away. I feel there is an issue beyond that of BAD WEBMASTERS trying to get one over on YPN.

[ViciousSummer]

Originally Posted by trivum

Actually, I think it's a pretty important post. People need to know that it's happening to a lot of people. And if those who it happens to want to vent their frustration here, I think that's important too. If it continues to happen (people getting banned without warning, without knowing how much is too much, etc.), and enough people get angry, it could change the way people look at Yahoo. That's one purpose for these types of sites - to communicate what's been happening to you so that others will know and therefore they will have a larger picture of the world they operate in.

I understand that people get tired of these posts, but I'm sure that people get tired of being banned even more.

It would be an important post if people didn't always hide the site that was banned. When someone posts yet another, "I've been banned" thread, claims that they didn't do anything wrong and will not reveal their websites, it's pretty pointless.

[anthonycea]

Originally Posted by fryman

Help? What do you want us to do? Hit the unban button?

Yeah Fryman, that's what he wants you to do man!

[fryman]

Dammit... I am on my laptop right now... you'll have to wait for me to get back to my control center so I can fix things up

[grantmd]

Originally Posted by ViciousSummer

It would be an important post if people didn't always hide the site that was banned. When someone posts yet another, "I've been banned" thread, claims that they didn't do anything wrong and will not reveal their websites, it's pretty pointless.

Mine is BlogSkins.com. It's in my sig. I'm not sure what that tells you about my situation, but there you go.

[SamOwen]

How much international traffic do you have to get to get banned?

Will YPN ban you just before payment?