Six questions on Iran

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by guerilla, Oct 29, 2007.

  1. #1
    1. Did Ahmadinejad threaten to wipe Israel off the map?

    2. Does Ahmadinejad control the Iranian military?

    3. What is the Iranian Military position on Nuclear Proliferation?

    4. Have the UN weapon inspectors found any proof of nuclear weapon development in Iran?

    5. Is Iran under International Law allowed to pursue civilian nuclear power?

    6. Is the United States, under International Law, allowed to threaten Iran with military force?

    I'm interested to test the knowledge level of the P&R forum membership.
     
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  2. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    1. Yes

    2. No

    3. I don't know.

    4. No.

    5. Yes

    6. Yes
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #3
    These seem like questions that a "conservative" who cares about America would ask, no?

    Number six should be:

    6. Is Iran, under International Law, allowed to threaten Israel and the US with military force?

    That's happened a lot.
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    Very good point.
     
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  5. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #5
    The correct answer to #1 is No.

    The answer to #3 should be vital to you. If you believe Iran is a nuclear threat, it should be important to know their position on Nuclear Proliferation.

    The correct answer to #6 is No. It is a crime to threaten the use of military force.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #6
    The answer to #1 is yes.

    I've covered and sourced this many times against those that support ahmadeenajd, the man that wants to wipe out Jews. Of course, there's nothing new about rp supporters and anti-semitism.
     
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    Well, if you read this, it might differ from opinion since I looked into it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmou...#.22Wiped_off_the_page_of_time.22_translation

    Does make some sense.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #8
    Thanks, yep, that's the same source I've used in the past:

    I don't pay much attention to Cole, since he is a known professional islamic apologist.

    Of course, ron paul supporters are not very friendly when it comes to Israel. At least the ones I've seen here.
     
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    M5love Well-Known Member

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    1. No.
    2. No.
    3. Not sure.
    4. No.
    5. Not sure.
    6. No.
     
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    Everyone can be wrong, a real person can admit when he is wrong.
     
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    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #12
    1. Did Ahmadinejad threaten to wipe Israel off the map?

    Depends on what source of translation and analyst you trust.

    2. Does Ahmadinejad control the Iranian military?

    No. He doesn't actually control much of anything, apparently he is just a puppet public loud mouth of Iranian supreme leader.

    3. What is the Iranian Military position on Nuclear Proliferation?

    Officially Iran is a signatory of NPT, thus bound to non-proliferation as long as it respects the treaty and it's terms. But recently Iran has violated the terms by resuming the development of a uranium enrichment program. Although Iran asserts international community that the enrichment program is part of its civilian nuclear energy program, as permitted by the Article 4 of the NTP. But by pursuing uranium enrichment in secret, Iran clearly violated the NTP and can not be trusted on the issue.

    4. Have the UN weapon inspectors found any proof of nuclear weapon development in Iran?

    No, not explicitly.

    5. Is Iran under International Law allowed to pursue civilian nuclear power?

    Yes

    6. Is the United States, under International Law, allowed to threaten Iran with military force?

    The question is rhetorical.
    The Iranian track record isn't very clean. Iran has made the statement that Israel would be the first retaliatory target for any attack on Iran. So, the US threat you can say was retaliation too..


    Funny, I'm interested in your knowledge level too.. Care to answer your own questions? :p
     
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    Let there be peace! That would be a beautiful thing wouldn't it ?
     
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    Are you saying Gtech is not a real person? :D
     
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    3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khameini#Nuclear_weapons

    5. Yes, they are.

    And I appreciate it.

    I'll reply to your responses.

    1. I trust MEMRI and Cole, as well as the Iranian governments own statements that such a threat was not made, than the whimsy of a career Jerusalem journalist.

    2. Correct. But he is a democratically elected puppet. The last government was a reform government that attempted to normalize relations with the US through Switzerland, and their progressive government fell apart when Bush declined, and then labelled Iran a member of the Axis of Evil. Apparently Bush forgot who negotiated with the Afghani Northern Alliance to make Karzai the new leader of Afghanistan, and who helped capture, detain and root out the Taliban during the post-9/11 US actions in Afghanistan.

    3. The US also violates the NPT. The difference is, Iran has never been proven to be researching for weapons.

    4. The answer is, no, not at all. Not, "not explicitly". There is no smoking gun.

    5. Correct.

    6. You didn't answer the question. The answer is no.
     
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    bfebrian Peon

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    #16
    thanks for the info.
    for those ignorant people

    nukes is the worst weapon ever exist... kill everybody...
    if war ever come back in one on combat... with only sword or spear... should be better...
     
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    #17
    Yes there is.
    UN inspectors can only visit and observe the reactors, storage and other facilities announced and open for observation by the government. If someone is trying to make nukes secretly, they will not let UN/IAEA observers anywhere near the secret facility.
     
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    He could be a image of our imagination gone wild! :D
     
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    #19
    i second that
     
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    Sadly, for there to be peace there must be war :(
     
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