Ron Paul: Who hates americans? We do.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by KalvinB, Oct 15, 2007.

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    http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=7169C0C2-D529-4B93-B83A-8C9ECEB455D5

    That's special. I guess he's not really pretending to be a Republican anymore.

    I find it interesting that he's selling himself on the idea that he can get rid of the IRS.

    No he can't. And now he's at a bigoted rally supporting the ridiculous definition of what a "typical" American is.
     
    KalvinB, Oct 15, 2007 IP
  2. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Yep because someone speaks at an event that makes him have the same beliefs. Wow that can easily be turned against anyone, nice 'attempt' at making something more than it is.

    So what do you have to fear from him might I ask? It's amazing for those yelling up and down he has no chance, they sure appear to be using plenty of energy to discredit him any chance they get.

    Wouldn't it be best to see what he says first at any event?

    Yep lets make it something it isn't :rolleyes:
     
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  3. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    Regardless of whether or not it's a "pardody," it's not a parody that Ron Paul is hanging out with the cream of the far left. Nobody is objecting to their right to say whatever they want. The question is, why is a supposed Republican candidate hanging out with the far left?

    And it certainly doesn't sound like a parody as those are pretty solid Liberal views. Or maybe it's parody because they said "Jews" instead of "Zionist Lobby."

    I don't buy it. But, we'll see what he has to say for himself.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Not hard to see at all, he's speaking to the anti war crowd. So you'd rather not see anyone reach acrossed party lines at all?

    With that logic or more like lack of then I guess nobody can ever reach acrossed a party line to find mutual ground, pull people away from another party to their camp otherwise it will be 'hanging out' with them.

    Seriously a twisted look on things IMHO.

    It's smart for him to speak to anyone who will listen, even if it's 'liberal' if they like his message and he can convert the people to his side that's simply smart politics.

    In your opinion and other right wingers opinions that's what a liberal thinks, that's kind of the point of the parody and you've shown the right wingers took it like the bait it was.
     
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    Toopac Peon

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    Didn't the left set this event up in response to the Islam-o-facist awareness week?
     
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  6. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    yes it did. They're very bad at parody because it's obvious that it's not a parody at all. Calling that list of liberal beliefs the "parody" label is the same as the "interpreted wrong" card. It's a way of sounding crazy while still being able to blame the Conservatives for making you look foolish.

    Ron Paul is anti war. He's preaching to the choir. I'm wondering why he's pandering to the far left instead of taking his message to the moderates or the conservatives. You know, people who can actually vote for him in the primary.

    Ron Paul realizes that his fan base is the far left and if he wants to win the primary he has to convince them to change parties (wink wink). Or maybe he'll finally change his hat.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Shows how little you know.
    Many states do not require you to register as a party, many states that force you to register you still have time to change. Why wouldn't he bring his message to those who might lean to the center. People who are anti war does not necessarily equate to being 'left' as you'd call it on all issues.

    No he doesn't need to get people to change parties, like any 'smart' politician he takes his message to any voters who are willing to listen.

    I find it refreshing a republican is willing to talk to someone on the other side of the fence, you on the other hand are obviously worried that you've spent the time and energy to create a rubbish thread and not even get your facts straight while trying to discredit him ;)
     
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    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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    Ron Paul has historically voted with the majority of Republicans in Congress 75.0% of the time. The fact remains that the 25% of his beliefs that don't fall in line with Republicans resonate with a lot of different crowds, including his anti-war stance which attracts a lot of Democrats.

    People are constantly talking about other supposed "first tier" candidates and their likelihood of getting elected...someone who can pull people from both sides of the fence is a force to be reckoned with in a general election; all the pundits and statistics point to the fact that the more moderate candidate almost always wins the general election. In this sense, Ron Paul is in a lot better shape than people who are radically to the left or right.
     
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  9. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    That was my question.

    And I quote myself

    Does he really think he can convince those people to be more moderate? Or is he just accepting that those people are his base as has been apparent to those who have been paying attention?

    Or did you mistake that crowd as being moderate?

    This is basically the way it's shaping up:

    Ron Paul's base is mostly liberals and foreigners. The people he needs to convince are not the people at that rally who already support him (that's why they invited him to speak) but moderates and conservatives. The people who can actually vote in the primary for him. He either has to change parties so the liberals can vote for him or he needs to convince the liberals to register as republicans to vote for him. Or he needs to stop pandering to liberals and start trying to convince the republicans that he's not nuts.
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    In this case, it sure does. Wonder if david duke will be there too? One coincidence after another after another after another. Eventually, patterns emerge, for those who are not blind.
     
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  11. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #11
    Our DNA is 99.9% the same as an Apes DNA. It's not the percentage that matters, it's what that percentage encompasses that matters.

    Republicans and Democrats probably agree on most things. But there are some huge issues that they disagree on which is what seperates the two.
     
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    Briant Peon

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    #12
    http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/15/david-horowitz-slanders-antiwar-activists-ron-paul/

    Err, what had happened...


    Ooops :D

    Oh, and here's a little help:

    http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/

    Check out the first couple of comments on the frontpage link :D
     
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  13. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    That's pretty absurd.

    I suppose I should have caught that.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #14
    Why ruin a perfectly good record of slander?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    That's pretty bad, it was pretty damn obvious that the listed information was not 'liberal ideas' it was an obvious attempt to discredit those mentioned. I didn't even look into it being fake, although it was obvious as hell it was a parody or fake, but that sure didn't stop the anti Paul people from showing their colors ;)

    Admitting you are the blind crowd yet? :D
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #16
    Is this thread a parody?
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #17
    Ughh... let's close this thread! :(
     
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  18. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    No way! Remember that comment yesterday about how it's easy to post conspiracies but a lot of work to debunk them?

    This is proof! :D
     
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    This thread deserver bump to remind everyone who's blind and who's not blind here. ;)
     
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    #20
    Yeah... There are people here continuously trying to smear Ron Paul by associating his name with racist newsletters, anti-gay sites, Iranian Mullahs, far left, near left, right, centre, middle, top, bottom, every damn thing...

    This thread lays open the neocon hypocrisy and lies.
     
    gauharjk, Jan 28, 2008 IP