Shoemoney gets extorted by corrupt DMOZ editor for $5000

[emmawatson]

http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/26/dmoz-extortion/

Needless to say he didn't pay up...

Interesting post though.

Wondering if this is a common experience and what reaction DMOZ editors that hang around here might have.

[Grokodile]

I get caught on this part...

I am not a lawyer or an accountant. Any legal or financial advice I give is my opinion based on my experience. Always seek the advice of a professional before acting on something that I might say.

You should assume everything written on this blog is a lie. You should assume I have motivation for linking to everything on this page and will benefit from it somehow. You should assume I am no better then you are and your opinion has just as much weight as mine. You should question everything. You should come up with your own thoughts and opinions and not trust some stupid blogger.

And then I think about the value of traffic and how great something like this will work as linkbait.

Who knows?

[Claudek]

There is an active discussion on this already at http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=4269102

[gworld]

Originally Posted by emmawatson

http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/26/dmoz-extortion/

Needless to say he didn't pay up...

Interesting post though.

Wondering if this is a common experience and what reaction DMOZ editors that hang around here might have.

Was it nebuchadrezzar? nebuchadrezzar is quite desperate these days with price of his links going down due to the competition.

Buy a DMOZ link

[nebuchadrezzar]

Oh Julian my dear little friend you need to try to concentrate a wee bit harder.

Firstly you need to turn on you BS filter. $5000 dollars???

Secondly you need to listen harder. Its not that hard. Really. How many times have you heard people say those who offer bribes get banned. That some crook tried to scam him out of 5000 simply proves the maxim that you reap what you sow. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showp...7&postcount=41

[gworld]

Originally Posted by nebuchadrezzar

Oh Julian my dear little friend you need to try to concentrate a wee bit harder.

Firstly you need to turn on you BS filter. $5000 dollars???

Secondly you need to listen harder. Its not that hard. Really. How many times have you heard people say those who offer bribes get banned. That some crook tried to scam him out of 5000 simply proves the maxim that you reap what you sow. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showp...7&postcount=41

I hear your BS and I always give it appropriate amount of consideration which is none.

I am still waiting for the answer to this question:

Originally Posted by gworld

With the information that you are privy too, what is your opinion about Jezebel and phone mistress? Do you consider them upstanding, honest editors?

[paidhosting]

Originally Posted by gworld

I hear your BS and I always give it appropriate amount of consideration which is none.

I am still waiting for the answer to this question:

Aah the word BS .

So, is this proof enough that dmoz has corrupt editors ? Can we conclude the chapter now ?

[gworld]

Originally Posted by paidhosting

So, is this proof enough that dmoz has corrupt editors ? Can we conclude the chapter now ?

I think nebuchadrezzar silence as answer to my question is a clear and loud YES that DMOZ has corrupt editors.

[nebuchadrezzar]

Originally Posted by gworld

I think nebuchadrezzar silence as answer to my question is a clear and loud YES that DMOZ has corrupt editors.

Do you have some sort of cognitive disorder or are you just plain stupid?http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showp...5&postcount=25

nebuchadrezzar: "There are many people who have become editors for abusive reasons. Quite a few of them have been caught and removed. But some will no doubt remain. And that may well include some editalls, metas, and admins. And any information about that abuse would be gratefully accepted from what ever source, even from Julian. That there is some high level conspiracy to overlook abuse is something that is not supported by the evidence that I am privy too. And I would be prepared to admit I am wrong should that be the case."

[sarahk]

I see there is no statute of limitations at dmoz. That post is 2 years old and the site is considerably more established now.

I don't endorse corruption, and I believe Jeremy was airing his frustration at the length of time it takes for submissions to be reviewed. It's a bit like the difference between saying "I could kill George Bush" and actually meaning it.

[nebuchadrezzar]

If you vent you frustrations in that way there is a risk that someone will take you seriously.

A ban forever I guess could be a bit harsh. There is for example the possibility that a site could be sold and that the new owner could be penalized when he has done nothing wrong.

[sarahk]

I guess that's part of the due diligence you do when you buy a domain!

[gworld]

Originally Posted by nebuchadrezzar

Do you have some sort of cognitive disorder or are you just plain stupid?http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showp...5&postcount=25

There is a big difference between saying that it is Possible that there is a corruption and saying this is corruption. I don't want some stupid generalized nonsense, I want the answer to this question:

Originally Posted by Gworld

With the information that you are privy too, what is your opinion about Jezebel and phone mistress? Do you consider them upstanding, honest editors?

In case you think that they are not then who is protecting them when many editors are removed because of the most stupid excuses or just suspicion of doing something wrong?

[tbarr60]

Originally Posted by nebuchadrezzar

If you vent you frustrations in that way there is a risk that someone will take you seriously.

A ban forever I guess could be a bit harsh. There is for example the possibility that a site could be sold and that the new owner could be penalized when he has done nothing wrong.

His venting has nothing to do with what a directory is or does. The directory was created to direct people to what they are looking for. If I am looking for top web entrepreneurs shouldn't I find the shoemoney.com site?

And what is this "ban"? If a fair and rational editor had some category covering web entrepreneurs and attempted to list shoemoney.com, is the DMOZ admin application coded with a blacklist check? Could somebody higher than an editor decide there is no objective reason to keep the site out and add it?

[adnan]

Hey, a year ago, an editor approached me and told me it would cost $500.00 to list my linkspub.

I told him that your out of your mind.

Come on, $5000.00 to list a site in dmoz.

Be real guys. For $5000.00 you can get more promotion for your site then dmoz can provide in it's entire lifetime.

I mean have u ever noticed that nobody visits dmoz to find sites.

It's primarily webmasters, siteowners either checking up on their sites or seeing where to list their site.

That rdf data won't get you much traffic either.

If ur site was removed, u didn't lose anything.

Look at your traffic, have you seen any drastic drops? Not a chance.

Spend $299.00 and go for Yahoo Directory, your site will pull up in yahoo searches as well.

Spend an extra $199.00 list your site in Business.com, it is 10 times busier then dmoz, and it will pull up in business.com searches as well.

[markn26]

there's one thing you can't ignore about dmoz, hate it or like it, those sub pages have around a PR6

[Anonymously]

Originally Posted by tbarr60

His venting has nothing to do with what a directory is or does. The directory was created to direct people to what they are looking for. If I am looking for top web entrepreneurs shouldn't I find the shoemoney.com site?

And what is this "ban"? If a fair and rational editor had some category covering web entrepreneurs and attempted to list shoemoney.com, is the DMOZ admin application coded with a blacklist check? Could somebody higher than an editor decide there is no objective reason to keep the site out and add it?

There some overriding rules and attempting bribery means you are out or not allowed in.

Editall plus could untag the site but would have to offer a reason that would be archived. Usually relisting of a banned site only takes place after some discussion in the fora.

Therefore be warned before you offer any bribe to get in, it could shut you out permanently.

Originally Posted by adnan

Spend an extra $199.00 list your site in Business.com, it is 10 times busier then dmoz, and it will pull up in business.com searches as well.

Spend a little more and you can get listed in Linkjspub as abebooks

[adnan]

Therefore be warned before you offer any bribe to get in, it could shut you out permanently.

I guess that kinda kills all hopes of growth for the poor site.

Furthermore when doing a change of ownership in sites, I guess it's best to call AOL and inquire if it has a permanent dmoz ban before making the purchase. LOL


Isn't it kinda funny how things tend to fall in place the right way in the world. As much as AOL wanted to be a top search engine, it's not even considered as one.

Despite them having dmoz right at their side.

there's one thing you can't ignore about dmoz, hate it or like it, those sub pages have around a PR6

I think that stpt somehting like that has high pagerank pages as well if that's what ur after.

Plus, u can go to the link sales forum and theres tons of people there selling them.

[Ivan Bajlo]

So how much jail time can you get for racketeering $5000 in US?

BTW if it can be proven there are more persons involved will FBI get involved and use RICO?

[Naruto07]

theres so many bad stuff about DMOZ but still so many people want in!?

WHY??? and obviously theres people from google who read it and yet they still use it on their directory!

WHY???