Forget about PR? I think not and heres why

Discussion in 'Google' started by wozzaofrare, Apr 24, 2007.

  1. #1
    Someone recently said to me to forget about page rank and keep focusing on links. Well here's why that is a load of rubbish.

    A page rank zero site CANNOT out rank page ranked websites in the SERPS for a competitive term. End of story.

    A page rank update is needed in order for those hard earned back links to take effect and allow the site to move up the SERPS.

    So to all those people out there advising the above, please note that PR is IMPORTANT
     
    wozzaofrare, Apr 24, 2007 IP
  2. yfs1

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    Where are you getting that from???

    Toolbar updates have nothing to do with SERP updates.
     
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  3. Gunda

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    #3
    page rank n serp are diff things i guess maybe they somethings in commond but not everything
     
    Gunda, Apr 24, 2007 IP
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    #4
    PR is completely worthless in terms of SERPs. I don't know where you got that from, but your info is completely wrong..
     
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    sweetfunny Banned

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    How many examples would you like to prove otherwise?
     
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    patrickberry Active Member

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    #6
    The initial poster got it wrong.

    That said, pr is still a major part of the google algo. But it is not the be all and end all of it.
     
    patrickberry, Apr 24, 2007 IP
  7. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    #8
    pr is not important in SERP, i have a new anime site but already established on some competitive keywords page 1 to page 2 on google.
     
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    patrickberry Active Member

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    ok guys (re aaron adn elio3)

    i recognise both of your names and do not wish to get into a symantical debate but :)

    are either of you saying that page rank no longer plays a part of googles algo?

    I doubt it. What we all agree on is that trust has become an overriding issue and google does not export that to the toolbar!
     
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  10. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    Im not saying that. Im sure it does play a role in the SERPs. What I was responding to was this point.

    Which is completely false.
     
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    patrickberry Active Member

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    i agree.

    we all have examples of sites with lower pr higher in the SERPs than competing sites with higher pr.
     
    patrickberry, Apr 24, 2007 IP
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    boron Well-Known Member

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    #12
    PR 0 site can beat PR7 or PR8 site. Google lists sites in SERPS by relevancy (well, this is what they say...). Some time ago one could build a good PR with many backlinkslinks regardless of their quality or relevance. PR algorhytm might change lately...
     
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  13. soju

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    #13
    I think op intended that a "pr update is needed in order for me to sell me links at a higher price".
     
    soju, Apr 24, 2007 IP
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    PR is not important for serps, my blog has PR0 (more than 2 months old), but I still get 50-60 visitors from Google every day. I have pages that rank quite high for various search terms beating PR 5-6 sites.
     
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    as they said it's just a PART of algo not all to decide the ranking. like my site PR3 still beat some PR site but for some keywords i was even beaten by non-related site with lower PR....

    sometime i dont understand G...at all...
     
    tradeya, Apr 24, 2007 IP
  16. butterfingers

    butterfingers Well-Known Member

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    #16
    PR is useless, but backlinks are essential.

    But if you're having a directory that sell links, PR is essential.
     
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    #17
    PR definitely still plays a part of Google's algo. This is because PR is about backlinks.

    --Joe
     
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  18. mhmdkhamis

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    your friend is right
     
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    #19
    well it doesnt matter it help google sherp or not, but 90% webmaster really care about their website page rank.
     
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    #20
    Toolbar pagerank is one of the by products of a linking campaign.
     
    oseymour, Apr 24, 2007 IP