Hello.... Finally the answer ive been looking for about the IP issues that everyone always whines about and claims that are made by those who dont know.... My friend DAN at Vilesilencer Forum was kind enough to finally give me answers to my questions after this was brought up at his forum..... http://www.info.vilesilencer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3810 Dan gave me this info were matt actually spills the beans..... http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/myth-busting-virtual-hosts-vs-dedicated-ip-addresses/ thx malcolm
Link quote I’m happy to affirm that this statement which was true in 2003 is still true now. Links to virtually hosted domains are treated the same as links to domains on dedicated IP addresses. So now we know thanks Malcolm
That means I can host about 100 odd domains cross linking to each other in my shared hosting account!?????
I knew there was no advantage in hosting on diff C class IP. Though ppl like to say it due to certain ppl believing a myth. But a penaly for excess cross-linking is still valid... how many are ok? I asked around but no one knows.. You know, G owns whois, supposedly they may check the owner and all the detail info. So even using diff IP's may not give you an advantage if they look into your server info. The similar thread was at SEO forum some time ago btw.
My belief is that only half truths and/or lies are always told, so one can cover the other. Never a straight forward answer. Only half-assed ones. Do I believe in the myth? no Do I believe that gaygle can somehow cross-reference? yes Do I think there could be a penalty assessed to the cross-referenced sites? more than likely.
Well, I believe there's no harm on interlinking sites if : - Few sites hosted on same IP...not 100s - Use different domain registrars - Make full use of domain privacy
I think hosting multiple sites on the same IP isn't the problem. It's how they're interlinked. 500 sites on the same IP and NOT interlinked won't be a problem. 500 sites on the same IP in a "reasonable" linking structure where a few related sites are linked together here and there won't be a problem. 500 sites on the same IP and interlinked is going to throw a red flag. Then if your site has other red flags (links to bad neighiborhoods, link spam, heavily optimized pages, private registry, etc.) you're going to find yourself in trouble. Oh yeah, one more example. 500 sites on DIFFERENT IPs and interlinked is going to throw a red flag. Then if your site has other red flags (links to bad neighiborhoods, link spam, heavily optimized pages, private registry, etc.) you're going to find yourself in trouble.
Hello... Very well said and thx for showing examples.... NOW.. all those that are constantly asking "Is it on different ips"... or that were worried about submitying to some directories, what can i say... you have now the knowledge so you dont have to keep asking the retorical question of........ thx malcolm
The thing is Google has the ability, but hasn't implemented it yet, or at least not notably. As competition of the SEs continue to get the most relevant SERPs it's an eventuality IMHO. Kinda like death & taxes.
so....inevidable would be the word were looking for? Agreed to a point, as long as you dont abuse what you have then it should be ok as far as i see. thx malcolm
Google certainly ignores cross links from the same IP - I've done extensive testing with quite a few domains. I've have domains that do not need SERPS and have pointed links from PR6 pages that have only a couple of outgoing links and there has been no PR transfer in almost a year. Links from the same PR6 page transfer PR to domains hosted on different class "c" IPs. The chances of having two sites with unrelated ownership linking to each other on the same IP are almost nil. I believe google just assumes the same ownership regardless of whether or not the whois is private or different and ignores links. I don't think there is a penalty as long as you don't have a bunch of unrelated interlinked sites on the same IP - which could be seen as a link farm. If you have a genuine need to crosslink a site or two that share the same IP, go ahead, just don't expect PR or help with SERPS. I've also read that private whois information is available to top level registrars (which google is) but I haven't confirmed this as a fact. Aaron Wall also warns about having a bunch of private whois sites crosslinking to each other as this sets off a red flag. If you want to cross link sites, I would use a different host, different whois information, and do three-way link exchanges.
If you use a hosting provider you almost certainly have thousands of other sites on the same IP as your site. I just did a whois on one of my sites. Here's what it returned. . Only one of them is mine. If you look at the links from the original post you'll see that Matt Cutts states that domains on a single IP are treated the same as domains on seperate IPs.
Matt Cutts was talking about getting better PR or treatment in SERPS having a dedicated IP vs. a shared hosting environment - and there is no difference - however, the purpose of page rank is for sites to be naturally linking (voting) for another site NOT an owner of a bunch of domains (voting) for their own sites. Having a shared IP just makes it easier for google to catch crosslinking - if they caught you cross linking on different IP's, they would treat it the same. Using different IP's can make it much more difficult, but not impossible, to catch.
IF ( whole other argument ) PR is a factor in SERPs then it would bear to reason that this would be the biggest threat to Google being manipulated and would discount PR from same IPs. I see this as the most likely implementation.
Thats right, we cannot know whatst he real thing and hence just go with whatever way you want to proceed Either C Class or D Class