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Old Mar 14th 2007, 7:27 am
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Example of Fake PR7 Link

Here is a good example of fake PR: http://www.hvlabs.net/

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but it's PR7 according to my SEO tool?
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Old Mar 14th 2007, 8:06 am
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One of the reasons I posted the url was to provide an example for testing one's fake pr detection skills!

Here is a post I posted on my real estate blog today:

http://www.realestatewebmasters.com/...ntly/990/show/

I should also have mentioned in that post to always check the cache and inbound links for further info!

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how do you know its fake?im kinda slow today
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Old Mar 14th 2007, 8:12 am
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Hi SemperFi

when I treid the link on your blog it took me to a sign in page ... any chance you could post here the details on how to check if a site if faking PR?

Many thanks for sharing this

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Old Mar 14th 2007, 8:16 am
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18 backlinks and is a PR7. I can pretty much assure you that is not possible. That is one way to know.
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it is simple, just check:
http://www.seologs.com/pr-check/page...ww.hvlabs.net/

it pulls pr from http://ntadmin.reachone.net/
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Old Mar 14th 2007, 8:24 am
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Yea but how is http://ntadmin.reachone.net/ valid with a PR 7. It has 2 backlinks, but says it valid in the tool.
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Hi SemperFi

when I treid the link on your blog it took me to a sign in page ... any chance you could post here the details on how to check if a site if faking PR?

Many thanks for sharing this

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Fake PR guide
After seeing more and more available lists containing domains with fake pagerank (PR), I decided to make this post to help you spot and avoid domains with fake PR.


What is fake PR?
Fake PR is achieved by using a 301 or 302 redirect to point one site to another site with a higher pagerank.

How can I check for fake PR?
You can use the fake PR check tool here.

All you need to do is compare the URL you submitted to the results. If the domain name you entered has fake PR, the results will show a different domain name to the one you submitted.

Inconclusive results?
If it returns "Sorry, we cant verify the pagerank for this page", then Google is unable to determine whether the PR is fake or not.

If this is the case then you can use archive.org's WayBack Machine to view old versions of a site to see whether or not a redirect was being used when the page was archived.

Archive.org
If you use archive.org to view the site's history and the address in the URL changes when you click to view a result, then the domain was being redirected on that date.

Example:
hmdonl.com on February 11th 2005.
http://web.archive.org/web/20050211...www.hmdonl.com/

In this example the end of that URL changes to another domain name, meaning that on the date the site was archived the domain was being redirected. A good indicator of fake PR.

Are the results 100% conclusive?
There is a chance that the results are not correct.
The fake PR checker uses Google results so if the domain's redirect has been removed and the results are updated on Google, the fake PR checker won't see the previous redirect. That won't happen overnight though.

Archive.org has no recent archives, they're usually at least a year old, so they won't show the most recent redirects. Also there is a chance that the domain could have been used legitimately after it was archived, so don't go back to results from 1999 and expect them to be relevant.

Used in combination though, they're very good at helping you spot fake PR.



Just remember: never buy/reg a domain solely for the PR and if it looks too good to be true (like an unregged PR5) then it usually is!

I hope this helps you avoid domains with fake PR!
http://www.namepros.com/available-domain-names/213338-fake-pagerank-guide.html
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hehe when i checked for backlinks it showed none :O http://www.google.com/search?q=link:...ww.hvlabs.net/
also the cache is dodgy http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache...ww.hvlabs.net/
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hehe when i checked for backlinks it showed none :O http://www.google.com/search?q=link:...ww.hvlabs.net/
also the cache is dodgy http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache...ww.hvlabs.net/

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use yahoo to check links. google gives a small sample and at best its random and never shows most links to a site.
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Well, I think it still makes good money out of that fake PR. Just look at that word cloud.

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use yahoo to check links. google gives a small sample and at best its random and never shows most links to a site.
why would i want to check links for yahoo, when pr is only related to google.
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I am going to email this guy and ask him to give me a quote for an ad out of curiosity
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It's not fair to judge by number of backlinks. You can have fewer backlinks from high PR sites and that will be better than lots from lower PR sites.

There are ways of cheating the system I'm sure, but over time your PR should be valid.
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It's not fair to judge by number of backlinks. You can have fewer backlinks from high PR sites and that will be better than lots from lower PR sites.

There are ways of cheating the system I'm sure, but over time your PR should be valid.
That website is faking PR. There no need to even look at the backlinks. Have a look at the source code.
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I am going to email this guy and ask him to give me a quote for an ad out of curiosity
Actually, I got this url from text-link-ads.com The way they work over there is that you make the purchase, THEN get the link. That's how I found out about this site. Textlinkads is good about refunding fees when not satisfied. I feel bad for those sites that have purchased ads on the site. That word cloud wasn't there a day ago!
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Hi SemperFi...when I treid the link on your blog it took me to a sign in page ... any chance you could post here the details on how to check if a site if faking PR?...Many thanks for sharing this...Gordano
Sorry about that, I must have been logged in. Here is the correct link:

http://www.realestatewebmasters.com/...ntly/990/show/
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Old Mar 14th 2007, 9:33 am
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why would i want to check links for yahoo, when pr is only related to google.
I would probably suggest just buying SEO Book to help you out. I dont even know where to start, no offense, with a statement like this.

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It's not fair to judge by number of backlinks. You can have fewer backlinks from high PR sites and that will be better than lots from lower PR sites.
I agree, however, a site that has 18 backlinks showing up 99.99% of the time is not going to have a PR7. With the law of averages, go check out actual sites with PR7's and you will find probably the majority of them have thousands of backlinks. So IMO its a fair thing to say.
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