Google Adsense cheating us on the clicks?

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by wwcnet, Jan 16, 2007.

  1. #1
    I have looking at the statistics of Adsense and compare it with those of AsRep of http://www.asrep.com. Apparently, I guess AsRep is revealing a more accurate statistics than Adsense. There are quite a number of clicks shown in AsRep does not show up in Adsense Report. Is Google cheating us (publishers) on our site earnings?

    Anyone encounter this?
     
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    There are other tracking systems out there, those too shows different stats, finally we have to check out adsense account only.. that could be the real one, more or less we should believe them.. I think, there is no more option in this.. and how to believe the software you're using is showing the correct results ??
     
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    I would believe the software because I did a test with a friend of mine from another country and get him to visit my site and give me his IP Address just to see if it shows up in the AsRep report and it does indeed. But I get my friend to just deliver a click on the ads as to prove it does register in statistics. (Don't flame me for this as this is just a test)

    Surprisingly, after constant checking of Adsense Account and AsRep, I found the click did not get registered in Adsense Account. That's when I started to believe Google is depriving us on part of our Adsense earning. Anyway, they could have done that without our notice.
     
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    Not too often we get people admit to click fraud so regularly around here. It's a nice change of pace ;)
     
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    Hmmm. Can't see how it could be regarded as Google cheating anyone in this situation.

    Let's take a look at how this scenario unfolds.

    1) We sign up with Google Adsense for free.
    2) We place the code (blended to our liking) on our sites for free.
    3) At the end of the month the amounts are compiled according to the clicks we receive. Hmmmm. Can't see where it is costing us at all.
    4) We get used to the money we start receiving every month.
    5) After several months we start wanting more but are willing to do nothing about it.
    6) Google is still paying us even after we bitch and complain about us not getting any more money than we usually get.

    I ask this valid question. Who are we to have the right to complain about something we are getting for free in the first place?

    There is no such thing as "Google cheating us".

    Hope I made myself clear? If not. Go report Google to Google. They may or may not listen to you.

    Col :)
     
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  6. wwcnet

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    This is something I don't agree. It is the integrity of Adsense system. You don't see the point. Yes, it's free at the expense of the Advertisers. Imagine if you are Google and by doing this is good enough to pocket another billion in the next quarter. You get my point?
     
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    I could not possibly imagine me being Google. Google can do whatever they like in this regard. No matter what happens, they are paying you for some ad space. There is no contract or terms for how much they will pay you. Why? Because we have not done any work for them. All we have done is provided some space in return for payment for clicks.

    Integrity has nothing to do with it. If you had to pay some money for the ad space then sure, go for the throat and hire every lawyer in town to fight them for your rights.

    When it comes to Adsense. There are no rights. The only ones that have rights are the ones to pay per click. Not the ones who gets paid for clicks.

    Col :)
     
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    Yea, you are right. Probably you are not an Adword user. If you are, you know what I mean.
     
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    I was but didn't see the value in continuing with it.

    Col :)
     
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    No in a world like this we cannot leave any one who is cheating us

    I think Google may be cheating us or probably they have some problems wiht the adsense software(mechanism)

    one of my sites www.freewebspace.co.nr had high clickthrough rate for 33 clicks for jsut $0.02( normally the site has 10 visitors daily)

    This was the situation continously for three days

    I emailed them asked about who is doing like this but they did not reply any thing

    Also even if there 33 clicks charged at a rate of $0.01

    the total should be atleast $0.33

    But here the total was just $0.02 how it could be possible?

    I know that it could not be possible as how they could charge less than $0.001 for a click
     
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    Most people would use both to lighten their spending on Adword and if you are not duely paid on the clicks you deserved on Adsense, this is where a difference of $0.10 would make a difference of billions considering the number of publishers Google has.

    All we know that it's a free service and we shouldn't complained about it. But has anyone wonder what's behind the scene?
     
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    Unless you know what google considers a "valid" click and what ignore as a "invalid" click, isn't it pointless to argue the point?

    Your software is tracking ALL clicks and makes no distinction.
     
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    If you have explored the image ads and eCPM, you will laugh at the rate Google pays you when you register a thousand impressions on image ads. I just feeling Google is not only having a share in the revenue sharing but a BIG share.
     
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    ROFL....:D

    This sounds funny to me...sorry....It's almost like going to the hardware store, buying a rake, take it home, leave it lying on the front lawn, forgetting about it long enough to walk on the front lawn, step on the rake and it rises up and smacks you on the head, so you go jumping around cursing the hardware store.....ROFL :D
     
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    #15
    As CheapSEO said, may be the signup process for adsense is free, but remember you're giving ad space for them on your web page, so its just about giving like a rent for the space...you can do whatever on that space, put some affiliate links or whatelse you like..

    So its a 50-50 situation, whatever google can ask you or banned and talking about their TOS and Rights and the same time I think we too have the rights to make clear our Rights..
     
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    netjobs, well said. That's exactly what I meant. Notice that Adword bids are getting higher and Adsense payout is getting lower. What's does that imply? Think about it!
     
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    Sometimes I do see my Google Adsense account having 1 click without any revenue and that's a valid click, what does that imply?
     
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    I think you've fallen off your wagon mate!! Your argument is conceptually weak and completely and utterly (almost amazingly) flawed. Maybe you've fallen in love with google and find it difficult to have any objectivity.

    Notting
     
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    Google uses an automated system so they are not going to cheat anybody. Yes, people will smartpriced sometimes, which is done using some calculations to determine how much conversion a site produces. If you suffer smartpricing, its easy to blame them.
     
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    I agree with you... It's just that sometimes we receive a click that is too low in value after being used to high priced clicks. I also doubt google sometimes but perhaps that's just a frustration of earning low adsense revenue. I really think they will not do such thing.
     
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