Of course winning is the objective but due to comments from Condoleezza Rice you have to be joking AGS you know as well as I do that what she says or does will not alter the 'end game' To win which is the single objective requires new deal makers and decision makers with a 'bigger stick' than these guys are using I doubt whether any Rep or Dem can do that but together they better get their act together and 'get this war won'