Yahoo WebRank

[prof]

Hi. I just happened across the Yahoo WebRank tool on this site:

http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/webrank/

and was intrigued, as I had only been familiar with Google PageRank, and wasn't aware of Yahoo's entry into this area.

However, I noticed that the tool on that page didn't seem to work. I then went and downloaded the Yahoo Toolbar. But there was no option for installing the WebRank feature, and there was no WebRank feature when my Toolbar came up.

I see from past messages on this forum that Yahoo WebRank was certainly an active thing very recently. But has Yahoo abandoned it? Or are they just in between a "beta" version and a "release" version? Thanks for any info on this!

[digitalpoint]

I'm starting to get the feeling Yahoo abandoned WebRank, as no one has heard anything about it in 6 months.

[expat]

Originally Posted by digitalpoint

I'm starting to get the feeling Yahoo abandoned WebRank, as no one has heard anything about it in 6 months.

I'm pretty sure you're right. It distracts from Overture.....
and it may sail too close to the Stanford patent for original PR
M

[compar]

Originally Posted by expat

I'm pretty sure you're right. It distracts from Overture.....
and it may sail too close to the Stanford patent for original PR
M

I think your are probably right about them abandoning it. But it had nothing to do with either Googles PR or the Stanford patent. It was a web popularity measure and had nothing to do with links perse.

IBM ranked 10, not because they have a lot of inbound links -- although they do -- but because a lot of people click through to this site from the Yahoo SERPs.

[SEbasic]

So it's more like an alexa ranking than anything else.

It's a shame it didn't take off.

Alternatives are always good (when they work ; )

[magellan]

Mine was working a couple of weeks ago. Now it has stopped again

[expat]

[QUOTE=compar]I think your are probably right about them abandoning it. But it had nothing to do with either Googles PR or the Stanford patent. It was a web popularity measure and had nothing to do with links perse.[QUOTE]

well not according to yahoo

...Yahoo! Web Rank is a measure of how popular a web page is based on the number of links pointing at it. This feature is currently in Beta....
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/compan...ebrank-01.html

nothing to do with clicks nothing to do with popularity.

The PR patent is actually nicely formulated as there is a lot of referrence to "vote" and Alexa/Amazon has "click ranking" so the battle ground is taken.
M

[compar]

[QUOTE=expat][QUOTE=compar]I think your are probably right about them abandoning it. But it had nothing to do with either Googles PR or the Stanford patent. It was a web popularity measure and had nothing to do with links perse.

well not according to yahoo

...Yahoo! Web Rank is a measure of how popular a web page is based on the number of links pointing at it. This feature is currently in Beta....
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/compan...ebrank-01.html

nothing to do with clicks nothing to do with popularity.

The PR patent is actually nicely formulated as there is a lot of referrence to "vote" and Alexa/Amazon has "click ranking" so the battle ground is taken.
M

Ok Expat, I stand corrected.

There is no suggestion in that information of a PageRank type of calculation though. In other words the value of the link page is not taken into account. It would appear that all inbound links are equal. There also is no suggestion that they are using internal links in the calculation.

[expat]

I may see the world through tinted glasses but all this links business is gone out of hand. Reciprocal specifically from a deep down "resource" page should cancel each other out. The base idea was to have alternative or suplement links as information on a page which actually had some unique content and a link was a natural extension.

It's so funny that most webmasters think nothing off showing adsense or JC / VC etc on a page but refuse or do not use page links.

I think we may see three or 4 companies controlling ad / ppc etc world wide and one pays for inbound traffic and gets paid for outbound traffic.

Some traffic by merrit may still be free but no-one can build a reasonable business based on the whimps of SE's.

On most sites I now have SE traffic only accounting for about 40-50% the rest is ad/ppc 10-25% and interestingly on average about 200 core links that actually deliver the rest. (yes some are natural some we pay for).

The same should be done for e-mail send one pay 1 pence receive one .7 pence credit will kill spam fast.
Just some thoughts on a nice hot summer day UK.
M

[anthonycea]

WEB RANK is just another marketing gimmick to hook users into toolbar use so the SE can data mine page views.

It is about time folks see all of this for what it is, just a way to hook webmasters and surfers to give page views away to look at a rank indicator.

All of this link science is great but does it make the search results better?

Sounds like the title of a new thread, what the hell it would not be the first time we repeated the same subject over and over!

[montrealboy]

Well i have sites going up in yahoo...

To all of you if you wish to enjoy a good site..

www.mix-pharm.com

[darqSHADOW]

WEB RANK is just another marketing gimmick to hook users into toolbar use so the SE can data mine page views.

I don't agree with this at all. If they tie rankings in with their web-rank, then it becomes much more than a gimmick. Then it becomes like PageRank, and everyone will try and figure out how it works and how to get their site higher, to increase their rankings.

DS

[crear21]

I don't believe they would really go for that WebRank thing.

[Catfish]

I can from the standpoint that page rank is the primary reason that alot of people downloaded the Google toolbar. I imagine Yahoo would like some of that marketshare.

[longcall911]

Oh great. Now in addition to my Google toolbar, I also need a Yahoo toolbar, an MSN toolbar, an Alexa toolbar, a Jeeves toolbar, and what the heck... throw in a meta... I'll get a webcrawler toolbar, too.

hmmm... not much room left to view that web page. I know, I'll just get a bigger screen. ;-)