Ok - here's a little cutey conundrum!!! Keyphrase "ski france" We are no 9 for Ski France and have been for some time after recovering from February disaster! But at no 8 is www skifrance nl Now we have: More pages 257 vs 49 More Links 138 vs 10 More @ Links 715 vs 155 allinanchor 4 vs 11 allinurl 1+2 vs ??? allintext 3+4 vs 10 Identical PR [but we were 5 and they are 4] We are normal html they are a frameset! What have I missed? What is going on?
Google's Cache of that page is empty too. I can see why you are confused but I don't have a clue either. If you are beating them off-page already then try on-page SEO perhaps... Maybe if you get some more content on the page you can beat them since both of you have barely any words on the home page...
Your site shows pr0 on the mcdar tool. Theirs shows pr4. I know the toolbar shows 4 for your site - but I believe your recently added links need time to be accepted and mature in google's eyes. As pointed out elsewhere on this board, allinanchor is recognised quickly, but l believe it takes time for the effect of links to fully impact on serps. The only thing more I would do with this is try to get a link to the site from a news article. My experience with these kind of links is they mature quickly and are treated as authority.
The mcdar tools have a slight glitch in calculating the check sum needed to retrieve PR from Google. So, every once in a while, it is returning a 0 out of ten incorrectly. I do believe that Foxy's site has an established PR5. (I'm working on the glitch). I'd also say to try on-page optimization to jump ahead at this point. Caryl
Thanks so far guys and girls On page SEO at the moment is <TITLE>Ski France Snow Skiing Snowboarding France</TITLE> H1 Ski France Snow Skiing | Snowboarding France | Ski Apartments | Ski Chalets | Ski Resorts | Ski Database | Ski Jobs | Ski Weather I guess I need to up the Keyword count some and get a news feed
Maybe a weather feed for the area in the mountains... Useful, dynamic and will mention France somewhere probably.
Honestly the PR shouldn't play a roll in the ranking if the backlinks are all in place. PR0 could simply mean google banned them for something they did accidently and now that it is fixed the PR will be updated later. You have quite a few more outbound links than they do, not a huge amount of text either. Still can't see why you're not doing better with those numbers... but Im having a similar problem with wrestling shoes. lol
I put in place a weather feed the other day but the bloody thing only did big cities so if anybody knows another local feed I would appreciate it Geneve is good, Albertville, Meribel, Chamonix..... It is a strange one this one - its as tho there is a ball and chain attached to the site!!!
Do any of the resorts offer weather reports? Ski conditions? You could bring in the information from their site, perhaps some of them offer datafeeds.
Shawn has just made me aware that there is a problem accessing it through the "tool" menu here at digitalpoint. I'm looking into it. It is still available and working if you go directly to the tool.
The problem accessing The Google Datacenter Watch Tool from the "tool" menu in this forum has been corrected. Also, the glitch in returning some PR values inaccurately in the Keyword Analysis Tool and the Google Quick Check have also been taken care of. As always, let ne know of any other problems - glitches you may encounter. Caryl
As you know I'm not a big advocate of the value of on-page stuff, but I do think your page, and pages, are too bare. Put a 250 --300 sales pitch telling what people will find on your site, and why they should book with you. Do the same thing on the interior pages. For instance I clicked on your Ski Resorts page http://www.ski-france-ok.com/ski-france-resorts.htm and it is nothing but a page full of links. Put some sales bumf on there. Talk about how great these resorts are. Promise love, lust and self fulfilment at every resort. Get Vicious Summer to strap a snowboard to her bicycle and put that picture on there. I think this will do two thing. One it will improve your conversion ratio and it just may convince the SEs that you are really an informational site and not just a list.
You may well be right Bob - I have resisted doing so because I am a person who is normally blunt - to the point - and I can't quite see what a whole bunch of drivel is going to do to improve the quality of information that a person is going to get when they are looking for an apartment in a specific resort! Afterall look at the first page of Google - do they? The resorts page I plonked down recently [a month ago] to test whether it is useful to have such a page [remember my PMs on the matter of links?] It is very similar to the first page of one of the sites ahead of me!! I don't like it and it will be coming out / altered! So far it has done nothing to move the site! Now the comment about Viscious Summer and here bike is cool - maybe if I was to put some of her Hustler 42" thongy things on the site it might get that old search hound Google sniffing around a bit!!! Hehe Anyway thanks - I have that feeling that you have confirmed my worst fears.
I have altered the Index page to place some relevant drivel - much against my own wishes - if this works I am going to send Google a missive on how they have one rule for themselves and another rule for the rest of the world. I have also upped the keyword count in the H1 and I'm still looking for an RSS feed for the weather!
Remember this... They don't need to be found in the SE's. Probably a billion people know their name and address, quite a market penetration. You do need to get found because no one knows about you (compare to knowing G). That's why there are double standards indeed. More spiel will give G more chance t figure out what the heck it's all about.
I just looked at the index page and I don't see any substantial text addition. Are you talking about the "We do everything around Good Food, Good Wine, Good Times and Good Company" line? If so I think it is way too little. And why have you made it so small and so hard to read. Do you really think that your prospective clients are not interested in "Good Food, Good Wine, Good Times and Good Company"? Let's assume that you where doing a print brochure for French Ski Resorts. Would you simple list the names of the resorts with no comments or explanation? I really don't think so. So why do you think that works for a web site? Certainly if I was considering a French Ski Resort for the first time I wouldn't stay on your site for a minute -- there is no information there. I think you need an attitude adjustment. Information isn't drivel. As long as you think that way, what you write will probably read like, and sound like, drivel. Think of content as "public service" information. Educate your visitors. Why don't you interview some of the people who book reservations on the phone. Find out from them what the most common questions are from people making reservations. Then answer these question on the site. Hope I haven't offended you, but you asked for opinions.
I sure did and no you not offended me at all - quite the contrary. I asked for opinions because the page was stuck - I wanted, and have got, those - its not often that it is me who is doing the asking - but sometimes you need another perspective. This page was/is resisting all moves that I have made but in the end it will probably give me the answer that I want. Thanks again for the input all. BTW I added 105 words but I will add another 200 approx
I've just noticed that this thread has been "jumped"! Moved from being a case study on Google into the netherlands of a site review - which it ain't, as it is a question specifically about Google and Googles handling of sites. I put it specifically in Google for that reason - obviously I don't know what I am doing or have the experience.