MSN might have a sandbox!

[Stin]

My site has been around for a couple months didnt register in the MSN serps except for some really farout keywords that nobody searches. I just ran the keyword tool at DP, and Im now ranked for almost every phrase I could think up. Almost all of them in the top 20. Ill have to start going after more competetive stuff if this worked so easily.

Nothing major has changed on the site. Backlinks have been building up (msn sees almost 400 now) but they werent added just yesterday, they have been building up slowly. Unless I got some magic backlink yesterday that makes MSN love me, I think MSN has a sandbox. Thoughts?

[City2]

Yes, I noticed that as well this month. MSN is either slow now a days or a sandbox is being an effect here.

[Clearwater Florida]

I am seeing something different than that. I have 3 real estate sites that havent been up for even a week now and all those are indexed with content and BLs in MSN. I love the fact that MSN seems to index everything a lot faster than yahoo or google.

[Stin]

are you seeing these sites in the SERPs?

[debunked]

google sandbox (theory) places new sites in high rankings for a week or so, then bam gone for some time.

So if MSN has a similar algo, then you may see a site show up in the serps then, BAM gone in a week.

[Stin]

yeah maybe, but my site was already BAM gone for a month or more until yesterday. We wil seee..

[bluemouse2]

yes, it has for sure.

[onemancreative]

I see a delayed period of time before MSN shows a site in its SERP, but, it doesn't seem to be any longer than a few weeks.

[AfterHim.com]

I have two sites that listed in the top 3 after 3-4 weeks for MSN and have been there for months now.

Brandon

[msj484]

i think now there might be. before with msn you could simply get a massload of links, and be top 10 pretty fast. now it seems it takes a bit longer

[av1]

seems like the older engines get the longer it takes to get listed

[hurricane_sh]

I don't think they have any ranking delay algorithms, my new sites always can get great ranking in a short time, which is amazing... and I love MSN. Google just lets me feel I'm so incapable of any SEO work.

[MattL]

I have a couple sites that were listed within 2 weeks, one of them in the top 3 for my keywords.

[Stin]

Originally Posted by MattL

I have a couple sites that were listed within 2 weeks, one of them in the top 3 for my keywords.

Interesting, maybe MSN just suddenly decided it really likes my site..

[neterslandreau]

Originally Posted by hurricane_sh

Google just lets me feel I'm so incapable of any SEO work.

I know the feeling.. I rank well with both Y! and MSN but very poorly with G

[Web Gazelle]

MSN sandbox is Hogwash, but Google's is the real thing.

[chatgun]

As with Google I think MSN's sandbox may be only for new SITES and not new pages of an old site. Comments, your experiences?

[AfterHim.com]

Originally Posted by chatgun

As with Google I think MSN's sandbox may be only for new SITES and not new pages of an old site. Comments, your experiences?

Depends on how long you think the "sandbox" is. My two NEW sites/new domains listed in the top 3 after about 3-4 weeks.

Brandon

[City2]

It takes 2-3 weeks now a days for this so called sandbox

[Stin]

Yeah, I dont think its as strong as googles certainly..