CHRISTMAS -And "sun-god" WORSHIP What is The "LINK" ? "Pagans celebrated the birth of the Sun on the 25th of December." --THE MYSTERIES OF MITHRA by Franz Cumont [1903] http://christmasxmas.xanga.com/633488954/item/ CHRISTMAS - And "sun-god" WORSHIP What is The "LINK" ? The "First" Link - is The DATE "Pagans celebrated the birth of the Sun on the 25th of December." --THE MYSTERIES OF MITHRA by Franz Cumont [1903] Actually there are many Links between Christmas and sun-god worship. The most obvious Link is the Date itself. We know that the Bible says that Jesus was born during a warm month, when the sheep and their shepherds were still spending the nights outdoors. We also know - that could not have been in December,because that time of year was too cold and rainy. History reports that back then, and even now, the sheep in the area of Bethlemen and Jerusalem, are kept indoors at night, after the month of October.So what would cause the Apostate Church of Christendom to insist on "Honoring" Christ in the Wintertime ?There Lies the Link to sun-god worship.All the sun-gods from the time of Ancient Babylon, to the present - have birthdays on December 25. That is their holy day for Celebration. How could they all be born on December 25th - you might ask? The answer is simple. Nimrod of Ancient Babylon - was the first human,to claim that he was a god. His mother, Semiramis, claimed therefore - to be -The Mother of God. Nimrod was born on December 25th, and since all other sun-gods were fashioned after him - the answer is obvious."Semiramis and Horus/Tammuz were worshipped as "Madonna and child." And as the generations passed, they were worshipped under other names in different countries and languages. Many of these are recognizable: Fortuna and Jupiter in Rome; Aphrodite and Adonis in Greece and Ashtoreth/Astarte and Molech/Baal in Canaan." --Syncretismas! by Martin G. Collins Forerunner, December 1995 http://christmasxmas.xanga.com/633488954/item/ "In his deified form, Nimrod the Sun god is known as Baal. Mythology reveals the fact that the god Baal, and the goddess, the queen of heaven, were universally worshiped under various names and titles. History confirms, that Nimrod, and his wife, Semiramis, were the prototypes for all gods and goddesses that permeated all subsequent cultures and societies." --World Religions by David Terrell Nimrod - Semiramis - Tammuz And December 25th http://christmasxmas.xanga.com/633488954/item/ "When Nimrod was a young boy, his mother, Semiramis, desired him, and in fact, ended up marrying him. When Nimrod died, and was made the sun god, Semiramis then had an illegitimate son called Tammuz, who she claimed to be the son of Nimrod. Semiramis also declared that her son, Tammuz, was in actuality the return or rebirth of her husband, Nimrod." --World Religions by David Terrell Queen of Heaven - Mother and Child Worship - From Babylon "Tammuz became symbolized by the golden calf. Semiramis became known as the "queen of heaven," and was the prototype from which all other pagan goddesses came." --World Religions by David Terrell http://christmasxmas.xanga.com/633488954/item/ "Nimrod's religion is identified in scripture with Satan - by reading Isaiah Chapter 14 and in Revelation Chapters 17-18. By history we can prove that Babylonian religion invaded the whole world and is the basis for every system of idolatry, and is the theme of mythology, though the names of the gods are different because of the various languages in the world. The world's major religions can be traced back to ancient Babylon. Satan is known as the father of lies which deceiveth the whole world (Genesis 3:1, John 8:44, Revelation 12:9), and Nimrod was the human "father" of all false religion." --World Religions by David Terrell "Satan tried to compete for the loyalty of the world by setting up a very ancient center of sun worship called Babylon. It was Satan's attempt to defy God and His authority. The ring leader in this scheme was one named Nimrod. He was the man who had something to do with the beginning of pagan sun worship." --Paganism in the Church - Part 2 Joe Crews http://christmasxmas.xanga.com/633488954/item/ "The logical person to replace the Great Mother of paganism was Mary, the mother of Jesus. It mattered not to pagan Rome whether they worshiped the goddess mother and her child under the Egyptian names of Isis and Horus,or the Babylonian names of Semiramis and Tammuz, or the Roman names of Venus and Jupiter, or under the names of the "Virgin Mary" and the "Christ- child.". Either way, it was the same old idol-religion." --Baal-mas Where did Christmas Come from? Tom Adams "Nimrod, one of the great-grandsons of Noah, is accredited with being the originator of sun worship." --Paganism in the Church - Part 2 Joe Crews How did Christendom Swallow and Accept The Lies of Ancient Babylon ? "The 'Christianization' of Pagan Customs, Symbols, and Terminology — Christianity had to undergo a transformation so that pagan Rome could "convert" without giving up its old beliefs and rituals. The actual effect was to paganize official Christianity. A compound religion had been manufactured, of which ... Christianity furnished the nomenclature, and Paganism furnished the doctrines and the rights. The idolatry of the Roman world had by no means been demolished. Instead of this, its pagan nakedness had been covered with the garb of a deformed Christianity." --Vine, W.E, Gospel Tract Publications. The Collected Writings of W.E. Vine, Volume 5. Glasgow, Scotland, 1986, pp.436-439. "The so-called Christmas customs and traditions were later concocted more for commercial purposes than for religious. Merchants sell more of almost every kind of product during the Christmas season than at any other time of year." --Baal-mas Where did Christmas Come from? Tom Adams Christmas is A "Lie" "No "Christian" holiday is as misleading as Christmas—unless it is Easter. What do evergreen trees, Yule logs, holly wreaths, mistletoe, and Santa Claus have to do with our relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? Does the nativity scene with its mother-and-child motif teach us anything about the relationship between God the Father and His Son?" --Syncretismas! by Martin G. Collins Forerunner, December 1995 "Does Christmas teach us the truth? With so many falsehoods and deceptions surrounding and embedded in this holiday, we would be foolish to believe that God would approve of its celebration. Truth is very important to God. It is one of the names of His son - Jesus Christ (John 14:6) and one of his ministry's themes: "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32; 18:37). Conversely, lies bind us in spiritual slavery." --Syncretismas! by Martin G. Collins Forerunner, December 1995 "Let's reflect for a moment on the origins and history of Christmas, which flourishes today in the materialistic Western world. From its non-Christian background, we can see that it is a syncretistic blend of pagan rites and Christian themes that is abhorrent to God (Deuteronomy 12:29-32; see Exodus 32). Christmas is a quagmire of deceptive traditions." --Syncretismas! by Martin G. Collins Forerunner, December 1995 Now Add a Tree And a Little Greenery "After Nimrod's death (c. 2167 BC), Semiramis promoted the belief that he was a god. She claimed that she saw a full-grown evergreen tree spring out of the roots of a dead tree stump (the Yule Log) , symbolizing the springing forth of new life for Nimrod. On the anniversary of his birth (Dec 25), she said, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts under it. His birthday fell on the winter solstice at the end of December." --Syncretismas! by Martin G. Collins Forerunner, December 1995 Now Add a "Trinity" "A few years later, Semiramis bore a son, named Tammuz, Horus or Gilgamesh. She declared that she had been visited by the spirit of Nimrod, who left her pregnant with the boy. Horus/Tammuz, who she maintained,was Nimrod reincarnated. With a father, mother and son deified, a deceptive, perverted Trinity was formed." --Syncretismas! by Martin G. Collins Forerunner, December 1995
One of my favorite parts of DP is watching people of one religion try to tell people what someone else's religion really means. God, zealots are really annoying.
Islam can not exist without Judaism and Christianity. Its core foundation is: The jews and christians disobey god and deviate from the right way, this is why god sent mohammed to show humanity (not just the people of the arab penninsula) the right way. "Jews" and "Christians" appear in its definition. The muslims are obsessed with jews and until I came to this forum I didn't realize how terrible it is. Just today this Muslim guy told me that which pretty much reminded me of Imad talking about 3,000 years of Palestinian history All that muslim can say about Islam is that it is the "religion of peace", and that's its "the right way". They won't answer why Surah 2 is calling non-muslims: "people with a disease in their hearts". They won't answer if they think that child marriage is OK or not. They won't answer why they think that infidels should not be killed, although the quran clearly says they should, and ben-laden is following that word. But when they talk about other religions, they have a whole lot more things to tell you. They enjoy so much talking about other religions. Here is another example.
I was never religious, but I used to be very accepting of anyone else's faith as it did not concern me. Since I have participated in this forum the Muslims here have taught me about what Islam thinks about apostates, gays, jews, Christians, non-believers, women, young girls getting married, etc., etc., etc., and the Muslims on this forum have convinced me that the way many understand and practice Islam is a threat to my very existence. I will act accordingly.
Well... growing up and living in this lunatic region I didn't even have the luxury that many westerns have: not even knowing what Islam is all about. But I did learn a couple of new things, such as the hatred towards the jewish religion. Before I become active here I really thought that its a political thing, against Israel, with is expected and accepted, and to my surprise it is not. The hate of the jewish religion is the core foundation of their belief. But the most amazing thing I think is the their homogeneity: unlike us westerns who are likely to argue between ourselves about a range of things - actually everything, all muslims in this forum speak the same voice, have the same opinions, share the same twisted picture of reality, and are deeply convinced of the Islamic supremacy. Not even a single one of them is secular that offers an alternative, modern interpretation to the quran. This forum is such a good reflection why the arab world is doing so bad. To conclude the sad paragraph with some illustrative humor, here is a conversation I had yesterday on another thread in this subforum:
Hey, don't knock it. The above post supports my claim that given the opportunity, europeans/westerners will change Islam into an unrecognizable form. Look at what they did to possibly the holiest day of the christian faith. Give em a few years they'll turn Islam into Bedlam
Agreed... One of the most annoying things about people that bring up Christmas and associate it with religion is the ignorance behind their conclusion. Christmas is NOT a religious holiday or event. In fact, it does not signify the birth of Christ, has absolutely nothing to do with God, prayer, Christianity, etc.. NOTHING! Once people get that through their heads maybe we can freely start celebrating the holiday again as just that... a holiday! Christians moved Christ's b-day to Christmas, not the other way around. Now, to answer the OP's question. Christmas, the Trees, Santa, etc., all have their specific origins over time. Christmas is a culmination of history and tradition that dates back hundreds, and in some cases, thousands of years. The holiday itself as it is currently celebrated is a little bit of something to almost everyone that celebrates it. There is nothing specifically religious in nature, though it does play a large role in many religions. Ultimately Christmas comes from mans own desire to take time to give of themselves and be nice to others. While that too is a very Christian philosophy, it is not necessarily shared unilaterally by one group or religious body.