Duplicate Content Myth - *THE TRUTH*

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by jayw1988, Jun 15, 2009.

  1. #1
    Ok, so some of you SEO guys will already know this but most of you wont "The duplicate content myth is BS!" Google only penalizes websites that publish the same content more than once on there own domain...

    Now I'm not saying go out and build a 200 page site in one day with duplicate content, Google likes content to be added over time.

    So there you have it that is the Truth, I have tested this and have found that unique content will give you a very small SEO boost.

    Feel free to comment and question what I've just said.
     
    jayw1988, Jun 15, 2009 IP
  2. brian-hancock

    brian-hancock Peon

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    #2
    I agree with what you are saying to a point. I manage a few thousand web sites and many of them share content with others, but the entire sites are not identical. I would say that as long as 1/4 of the content is different and the overall design and presentation is different then you will be OK.
     
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  3. merlinseo

    merlinseo Well-Known Member

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    #3
    Very true.

    1. No duplicate content

    2. Build content over time

    Google spiders like to eat their own food(spider) in the plate, if you server duplicate food from others plate then they wont eat it :)

    Also they have a stomach which has a capacity to eat , so they cannot eat food for 1year in 1day
     
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  4. contentboss

    contentboss Peon

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    #4
    *YAWN*.

    read this duplicate content myth and then come back and tell me how you think there are no downsides to using duplicate content. There may very well not be a 'duplicate content penalty' right now, but there sure as hell is a 'unique content bonus'.

    If you can't understand why search engines want to provide a 'good user experience', PM me.
     
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  5. jayw1988

    jayw1988 Peon

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    What PM you so you can sell them the duplicate content myth and your services?
     
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    contentboss Peon

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    #6
    so you're saying one of these:-

    1. search engines don't care about providing a good user experience.
    2. search engines don't have the technology to detect duplicate technology.

    Which one is it that you actually believe?

    I'm just curious because you're wrong either way.

    And the PM offer is so real idiots don't have to make fools out of themselves in open forum by openly admitting that they don't understand why unique content is better than duplicate content.
     
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  7. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    #7
    The duplicate content myth is not total BS, it's simply misunderstood. Pages flagged as duplicate content simply have a little more difficulty ranking as well as the original. It's totally possible for a page flagged as duplicate to outrank the page flagged as the original version of the content. All the duplicate page needs is more and/or better inbound links/link text.

    Just because a page is 'original' doesn't mean it will rank better than a 'duplicate'. It does, however, mean that original page's scores for the particular ranking factors that are based on the content of the page will be higher than the scores for the duplicate page for those same ranking factors. But Google has supposedly over 200 ranking factors that they are looking at when they rank a URL for a particular keyword phrase. And there are lots of other factors that can affect how your URL ranks that can compensate for the low content factor scores on a duplicate page and make the duplicate rank higher than the original.

    If an original page and its duplicate has the exact same scores for ALL ranking factors except those ranking factors based on the content of the page, the original will rank higher.

    Everyone knows it's not any ONE thing that determines how a page ranks for a keyword phrase. It's the sum of many little things. Whether the page is original or duplicate only affects a few of those many ranking factors. Whether it is duplicate or original content alone will not determine which ranks higher.
     
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  8. qazu

    qazu Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it is a myth, until the original creator of the content hits your host with a DMCA. ;)
     
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  9. stephen082

    stephen082 Active Member

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    #9
    It is true that giving original content to search engines is always good. But as Canonical said that a dupe content many outrank its original copy if it gets more quality backlinks. There are many sites that use duplicate content but stiil they are highly authority sites with high PR. For example check any post on "sciencedaily.com" and google the content. You will see that most of the authority science related blogs or sites are using the same content.
     
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    #10
    VERY nicely put!

    Bottom line is, anyone wants to build giant mashup sites with nothing but scraped duplicate content, you go right ahead. Waste your life, disk, and bandwidth, in that order. And when the money DOESN'T roll in, don't bother posting on here about how 'its not possible to make money online', because it very definitely is.

    It's kind of like saying 'backlinks don't matter, becos I have a site with no backlinks and it ranks for "unwerzicalicality wity fneeblgoogadufic". It's just silly.
     
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  11. jayw1988

    jayw1988 Peon

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    Are you retarded or something? I never said duplicate content is better than unique content, in fact if you took the time to read my post instead of just posting a comment to promote your site you would know I said unique is better, which I did.

    All my post stats is that there is no duplicate content penalty, either take the time to understand my comments or go and make a fool out of yourself somewhere else.
     
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  12. jayw1988

    jayw1988 Peon

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    And its nothing like saying backlinks don't matter, building links is 70% of the deal with SEO and unique content, well, maybe 5%.

    Please enough of the stupid comments.
     
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    #13
    Unique content helps a lot, but it depends on what kind of website you have and what type of market you work in as to how much or little of a difference it makes.

    For most small businesses and markets that thrive on buzz-worthy stuff, original content is key. For commercial sites that have 25,000+ URL's in the index, then original content becomes less important because a products content may appear on several different pages due to merchandising choices. Even though it's duplicate, the content is still helpful, and thus can still out rank pages that have original content.

    I think the basic idea is that most sites should have unique content on every page, if possible, but a little overlap is OK if using the same content makes sense.
     
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  14. tannchri

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    #14
    Straight from Matt Cutts, end of discussion as far as you should be concerned: mattcutts.com/blog/duplicate-content-question
     
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  15. Media Precision

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    #15
    Let's not forget the end user here. Visitors will always want to read new high quality unique content rather than something they have already read a few minutes ago.
     
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  16. jayw1988

    jayw1988 Peon

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    As far as who should be concerned?
     
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  17. sultanofseo

    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    #17
    it is a known fact that google has duplicate content filter. but the whole duplicate content myth is overrated and often misunderstood. it is however always a good idea to use unique content for our own sites. regarding submitting the same artice to multiple article directories, there will be no penalty for us. worse thing is that some of those pages with duplicate content will get trapped into duplicate content filter and will be deindexed.
     
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  18. jayw1988

    jayw1988 Peon

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    I don't totally agree with that and here's why, if you look at the many millions of sites that sell physical products online you will notice a lot of these sites are using the same product descriptions and they don't get deindexed...

    Saying that I have had web 2'0 sites deindexed before but not many, and yes you are right Google does have a duplicate content filter but as you said it is way over rated and misunderstood, and hopefully this thread will clear this up, as way to many people worry about this.
     
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  19. tannchri

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    You, and anyone else wondering about duplicate content. :D
     
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  20. MaddiSEO

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    #20
    Duplicate content has been frowned upon by Google for quite some time. It is silly to think you can just dupe content and still get good rankings!

    Quality not quantity.
     
    MaddiSEO, Jun 16, 2009 IP