US bombing of Hiroshima Nagasaki was it a act of terrorism?

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US bombing of Hiroshima Nagasaki was it a act of terrorism?

Poll closed May 29, 2009.
  1. Yes, terrorism

    22 vote(s)
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  2. No, that was not terrorism

    23 vote(s)
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  1. #1
    Was the US bombing of Hiroshima Nagasaki a act of terrorism ?

    If not, then how do you define terrorism?
     
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  2. kashifyy

    kashifyy Peon

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    yes it was terrorism. USA is only country who ever used nuclear weapons
     
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  3. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #3
    No, it was an act of war.
     
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  4. new

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    #4
    Act or war, or an act of terrorism committed in a war ?
     
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  5. Briant

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    Terrorism, war crime, crime against humanity...call it what you want; it was an evil deed. Talk about a date that will go down in infamy...here you have two of them.
     
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  6. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Did I stutter?
     
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  7. mdvasanth86

    mdvasanth86 Notable Member

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    I think it is the latter....

    Lets face it.
    Every imperial country has done these kind of act in the past.
    Now they are spreading peace.
     
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  8. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    It was one of the most humane acts of this century, and done by a Democrat I might point out.
     
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  9. new

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    #9
    why don't you try these humane acts at home :rolleyes:

    Please all those who have voted that it isn't terrorism, can you explain that how these bombings were any different from the 911 acts? motives behind both were same and both targeted civilians


    "If terrorism is the massacre of innocents to break the will of rulers, were not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, terrorism on a colossal scale?... "Hiroshima, Nagasaki & Christian Morality"


    "...The destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a war crime worse than any that Japanese generals were executed for in Tokyo and Manila. If Harry Truman was not a war criminal, then no one ever was.."

    "Throwing a bomb is bad,
    Dropping a bomb is good;
    Terror, no need to add,
    Depends on who's wearing the hood."



    "The U.S. government has killed civilians for well over a century. During the Civil War, General William Tecumseh Sherman waged war on civilians in Atlanta. During the Philippine Insurrection at the turn of 20th century, U.S. forces killed about 200,000 civilians, and even had a policy to shoot anyone more than 10 years old who dared to resist the U.S. occupation of the Philippines. During World War II, the Allies ruthlessly firebombed Dresden and Tokyo and other cities in Germany and Japan, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent noncombatants.

    But there was nevertheless something special about Hiroshima and its sequel of mass horror, Nagasaki.

    People still defend Harry Truman’s atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on pragmatic grounds. Truman’s defenders say that the bombings saved far more lives than they extinguished. They concede that the bombing was an act of targeting civilians, but insist that it was for the worthy goal of ending the war.

    Before even examining the plausibility of this argument, we have to acknowledge the argument’s essence. In effect, to rationalize the targeting of noncombatants as the best method of bringing about a greater good is to make excuses for state terrorism. Terrorism, if it means anything, is a method by which civilians are the targets of violence for the purpose of achieving political goals. Having Imperial Japan surrender, even if a worthy goal, was nevertheless a political one, and the targeting of innocents to achieve that goal was an act of terrorism.

    Indeed, it was terrorism on an incredibly large scale. Hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese were instantaneously wiped off the earth on August 6 and August 9, 1945. Many more died in the following years from the radioactive climate left behind by the bombings. "
     
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  10. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Heh, justification of 911 attacks. Very interesting. There are a thousand different reasons why they are not the same but I really only need to give you one. We were at war with a nation of Japan. Ratbag terrorists don't even have a nation of their own, and are at war with everyone who doesn't buy into their ideology. Those who they are at war with don't/didn't know they are at war.

    why don't you explain what your motives were for 911 so we can all make an assessment of whether they were the same. What, did you get all these uncredited quotes from a site that justifies terrorism by trying to link it to the bombing of Nagasaki via quotes from semi credible sources? Perhaps tamilnation.org?

    For the record, are you FOR or AGAINST the killing innocents as a means to wage war, If you are FOR it, ends justifies the means, what are the noble "Ends" of Al Queda? What is the noble motive for the unprovoked attack of 911. Hell, provide me a noble motive as to why Hamas hide's behind their own civilian women and children. How is hiding behind your own civilians somehow the equivalent of bombing someone elses? If killing civilians is ok, why are you whining about loosing 147 civilians in Afghanistan. Why are you crying about the slaughter of women and children in Iraq, or the mistreatment of prisoners? After all the end justifies the means, right?

    If you are AGAINST killing civilians in war, again, why shoot from behind innocents? Why the 9-11 strike? Cant have it both ways.

    Truth be told, you are FOR whatever it is that you feel will achieve your ignoble goals, be it killing women and children, or complaining about the enemy killing women and children, or killing women and children, blaming it on the enemy, and complaining about the killing. It is simply too big of a dog turd for anyone with a brain to swallow.
     
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    Obamanation, don't you dare use their ideology against them. Don't you dare ask them questions you know they will avoid (like they always do). Don't you dare...:rolleyes: @ them.

    There is a huge differance. One, we were attacked first. 2, it stopped the war, preventing more killing. 3. Just because America did it, it is bad in your eyes. That will never change.

    I love all these people that are jealous of how powerful our nation is. I love these people that are jealous of how prosperous our nation is...:rolleyes:
     
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  12. new

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    #12
    Let me share the definition of terrorism from Wikipeida
    Fits beautifully on what US did in Japan!

    Wikipedia Writes More
     
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  13. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    So shall we take that as a "YES" you are a fan of terrorism? I see you didnt answer any of the questions, including the follow ups. Since you are a "YES" terrorism is OK guy, and you think the bombing of Nagasaki was a terrorist act and justification for the attacks of your friends, why are you whining about it? how bout the other questions?
     
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    This topic has nothing to do with hamas, don't try to justify your barbaric acts by blaming hamas for what you did! hamas never existed then

    motive behind 911 or any other act of terror is simple "exerting pressure on decision making by state bodies" do you think there was any other motive behind japan bombings?

    Wht's with whining ? if you don't like the topic then stay away from it
     
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    lol new i loved how they tried to spin it around on you, with 9/11. That Being said the United States of America is fully within their rights to bomb hundreds of thousands of civilians because they are the leaders of the "free world", and then they are also fully with in their rights to justify the killings of thousands of children by saying well "it stopped the war".
     
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  16. Obamanation

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    Exert pressure on decission making. What pressure? To come bomb Afghanistsan? What is the "Noble" goal of 911? To have the US and the world bomb the living crap out of Afghanistan? Think your argument through.

    I love the topic. I love any topic that gets supporters of radical Islam to come out and share their reasoning with the world. Like many types of mold, it dies in direct sunlight.
     
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    No, it was not an act of terrorism. It was an act like a friend.
     
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    Actually it was an act of war, you know, a violent conflict between to Nations? Terrorism is an act committed without the direct endorsement of a Nation, though there are state sponsors of terror who help such acts to take place because, though they would like to go to war with someone they hate, they are just too weak to do it so they think this is a way they can hurt their opponent without having to pay the brutal price that war brings (Read Nagasaki and Hiroshima)
     
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  19. new

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    #19
    the topic of this thread is not 911

    The reasoning is simple, US attacked and used nuclear weapons over civilian cities, killing thousands of people and disabling even more.
    This cannot be justified, no matter from which angle you look at it but still your false sense of nationalism forces you to defend it.
    how many non americans &brits you have met who agree with your opinion n japan bombing ?



    @suman817
    I think you are trying to be sarcastic here? :confused:
     
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  20. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    So we were attacked on 911 by terrorists who were exerting pressure on our government by means of violence because of bombing Japan during WWII?

    You desire to equate the two, and I think anyone here can tell you what the US was trying to do by bombing those two cities. Hell, it is in the history books. So if it is a terrorist act just like 911, please, explain the "noble' motive for 911.

    By the way, you still havent answered whether you are FOR or Against terrorist acts. I want to see you put the words to print if you aren't a complete coward (By definition, terrorists are cowards so i wont hold my breath).
     
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