Palestine? Excuse me!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by uploas, Apr 22, 2009.

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    I keep hearing that Israel took Palestinian land.
    Funny, because there were no country or even a state called Palestine.

    • Kingdom of Jerusalem 1099–1187
    • Ayyubid Period 1187–1244
    • Mamluk Period 1244–1517
    • Ottoman Period 1517-1917
    • British Mandate 1917–1948
    • State of Israel: 1948 to present
    No Palestine here.. or before.

    Ah, you want to go by the Torah?
    fine. "ישראל וממלכת כנען היא מדינת העברים"
    שמות כ"ג.

    (it says) Israel and the Canaan kingdom is the Hebrew's state.
    Canaan kingdom is : Israel and Lebanon, the Palestinian Territories, plus adjoining coastal lands and parts of Jordan, Syria and northeastern Egypt.
    Did we went to cry about the Arabs who took our land? no.

    I forgot, you don't believe in the Torah \ The Christian bible, so lets give you a prof from your book, the Quran.
    "To Moses We [Allah] gave nine clear signs. Ask the Israelites how he [Moses] first appeared amongst them. Pharoah said to him: 'Moses, I can see that you are bewitched.' 'You know full well,' he [Moses] replied, 'that none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth has revealed these visible signs. Pharoah, you are doomed.'"

    "Pharoah sought to scare them [the Israelites] out of the land [of Israel]: but We [Allah] drowned him [Pharoah] together with all who were with him. Then We [Allah] said to the Israelites: 'Dwell in this land [the Land of Israel]. When the promise of the hereafter [End of Days] comes to be fulfilled, We [Allah] shall assemble you [the Israelites] all together [in the Land of Israel]."

    "We [Allah] have revealed the Qur'an with the truth, and with the truth it has come down. We have sent you [Muhammed] forth only to proclaim good news and to give warning."

    [Qur'an, "Night Journey," chapter 17:100-104]



    Ah, you don't still think Israel (I'm not even going to start talking about the Canaan kingdom) belong to the Jews?
    Do you still think that before Israel and the British there was a successful country called Palestine?
    lets compare.. Eilat. the most southern city of Israel.

    Eilat 2006
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    Eilat, 1945
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    Let me refer you to Mark Twain's book, The Innocents Abroad, telling that there is nothing but camels and sand.
     
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    Bushranger Notable Member

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    #2
    Try taking off your blinkers then.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine
     
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    new Peon

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    Given this logic of 'progress/development' why don't you handover isreal to Japanese , I am sure they can do much better then the stuff on which you are boasting
     
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  4. uploas

    uploas Peon

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    Palastina is the right name. Palestine is a new name.
    but still, it wasn't a country, it was a nickname.
     
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    jonimontana Well-Known Member

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    #5
    FORGET ABOUT HISTORY !!!
    Israel is OUR country , we fought on it , our fathers died on it.
    israel is ours,leave and goto Egypt or someplace else , we dont care.

    thats all , Ori A.
    Prowd ISRAELI CVILIAN. (And Jaw ;))





    think i'm right ?>[DO NOT ASK FOR REP - wisdomtool]
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    Bushranger Notable Member

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    Is that your whole argument. Same argument could be said for the Palestinians.

    More Palestinians have died there so by your flawed argument doesn't that make the Palestinians more deserving of it?
     
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    Then keep fighting for a thousand years. The side which has little to lose will win...
     
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    dvirhazout Active Member

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    Palastinians are idiots. They had a lot of changes to get c ountry but they keep dreamimg about killing all Israelis and make a big country of their own, thing that won't happen.

    Just get used to it- Israel won't let you, not matter what you do, to take our little peace of land that saves us from haters around the world.
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    you are right :) when you look at a map , it is very clear :)
     
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    jonimontana Well-Known Member

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    its not all of it.
    palaestinins lost in the wars , got offer to live in some part of israel in peace. have theyr own country . and then what? they bombed some mall in israel :eek:


    na , we will just tear them into parts untill Egypt will open its border for them.

    they are , they had chanses , not anymore.
     
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    You are an idiot. Remember, what goes around, comes around. You tear them to parts today, and they will do the same to you tomorrow. Your country is already recognized in most of the world as a racist aparthied state. Its only a matter of time before your arrogance is defeated.
     
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    uploas Peon

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    We're racist?! we are the ones who don't let Jews \ Muslims \ Christians \ Bahia's come in? until 1996, There were no Jews allowed in Saudi Arabia.

    If Israel were racist, so how does 20.1% of the population is Arab?!

    If we were racist, the Druze would hate us. but they don't. their leaders in Lebanon and all over the world said : "Israel is the land of the Jews and the Druze".

    If Israel were racist, how there's any way that there were no Civil war?!

    The (most of) the Arabs in Israel recognized us as a Jewish state. like we recognize the Saudi Arabia as a Muslim country, they need to recognize and respect us to.
     
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    #13
    If whites in SA were racist, so how does 91% of population is Black?!

    If US settlers were racist, so how does 2%% of population is still Native American?!
     
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  14. uploas

    uploas Peon

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    If whites in SA were racist, so how does 91% of population is Black?! - almost 97% of Saudi Arabia are.. Middle eastern (white.)
    *I didn't say the whites in SA are raciest, I said that the whole country + people in SA are racist.

    If US settlers were racist, so how does 2%% of population is still Native American?! - Us settlers were racist. they killed and murdered. today they live in quietly.
     
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    this is a point that will get you nowhere. the "palestanians would want to become israelis, they can say that they wouldn't mind as long as they are treated equally and they can live in their homes. there is no need for a country name palestine. we can all be israelis, they would say. long live israel
     
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    #16
    Good post.
     
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    uploas Peon

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    You know what's better? reform in the Islam.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    uploas excuse me. How about opening lesser threads of similar natures and try to contribute to existing threads?
     
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