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Old Mar 27th 2009, 7:25 am
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Question Yahoo SERP drops suddenly

My site was ranked 25 for a keyword yesterday, and probably 26 for 1 week ago, but today it is at 81.

Does it mean a penalty or something happen?

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Old Mar 27th 2009, 8:14 am
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My site was ranked 25 for a keyword yesterday, and probably 26 for 1 week ago, but today it is at 81.

Does it mean a penalty or something happen?

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It means that google dance is going on or was going on
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Old Mar 27th 2009, 10:45 am
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You can't necessarily blame every ranking shift on the 'Google dance'. That is essentially not taking responsibilty for maintaining and improving your website's rankings.

When you don't have page 1 rankings, your rankings are much less stable. They are bound to jump around a bit. You could just be seeing different rankings as you get results from a different Google data center.

By looking at your website one thing jumps out at me...you don't have enough backlinks for good rankings. You have a PR0 and Google only reports 2 backlinks. Yahoo reports 140 backlinks, but that is still much too low to get rankings in that niche.

You need to work at building more backlinks to your website. You need to get those backlinks on a regular basis and from a variety of sources. You also need to vary the link anchor text a lot too.

I don't think you are penalized as you are still first for 'car price database'. You can get penalized for one keyword if you overuse that keyword as link anchor text.
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Old Mar 27th 2009, 11:01 am
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How can it be Google dance when the OP is asking about YAHOO SERPS ? in the post title
... also this is the YAHOO forum

I have noticed yahoo serps jumping the last week myself, and they are doing a deep crawl of my sites, so it may be wise to wait a week or so before panicking.

It may help you if you had some more text on your main page, as it looks like a page of little but links at the moment.
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Old Mar 28th 2009, 1:47 am
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How can it be Google dance when the OP is asking about YAHOO SERPS ? in the post title
... also this is the YAHOO forum

I have noticed yahoo serps jumping the last week myself, and they are doing a deep crawl of my sites, so it may be wise to wait a week or so before panicking.

It may help you if you had some more text on your main page, as it looks like a page of little but links at the moment.
You know I didn't notice that I'm in yahoo's page, and I think that today there is anyone who is concentrated in yahoo. So I'm sorry for my recent post.
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""When you don't have page 1 rankings, your rankings are much less stable. They are bound to jump around a bit. You could just be seeing different rankings as you get results from a different Google data center.""
Don't You think it's a google dance?
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Old Mar 28th 2009, 2:41 am
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Don't rely on yahoo!. Yahoo!'s results change almost randomly.
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Yahoo is using a similar almost technique with Google. However seems a bit weird with your SERP lost. Maybe non-unique content penalty?
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The reason behind this can be yahoo has found out and penalized your site for something. Follow their webmaster guidelines and try to do anything which was against it.
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Old Mar 28th 2009, 9:29 am
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yes... this happened to me as well
one of my main keywords was number 10 in yahoo (was number 2-3 about 1.5 month ago)
and yesterday and today i rank number 1 for my keywords
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Old Mar 28th 2009, 1:51 pm
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Ranking can often go down before they go up.

In my early days of SEO I would panic that a site was gone forever but it would always reappear and usually higher.

Have you done anything exceptional in last few days..a lot of pings maybe?
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Old Mar 29th 2009, 6:43 am
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I didn't do much things recently, so I don't think that I did something wrong. The keyword has 1,560,000,000 results in yahoo, and when it was ranked 25 I felt it is not a bad job...lol

Anyway, it is ranked 86 as of now, which means it is still dropping for some reason. Maybe wait and see how it goes.
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My sites drop from page 1 to page 3 or 4, then come back again all the time in Y!. I wouldn't worry about it. It can be frustrating, I know. But as long as you haven't done anything like hidden text, hidden links, cloaking, and so on, there is nothing to be concerned about.

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Yes, my rankings have shifted to the positive on Yahoo. Must be some kind of update.
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I have found the number of backlinks frequently reducing in Yahoo Site Explorer. I have asked this at their blog too but could not get a reply. Could be a problem with some links going haywire at times.
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just keep building back links, and youll be ok.
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yahoo serps are very volatile i have noticed
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My rankings change almost every week. Even though my backlinks (and I'm pretty sure my competitor's either) are still the same.

I'm 1st this week, I was 3rd last week and I'm going to be 3rd in a week again .

It is yahoo!. I got used to it.
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You can't necessarily blame every ranking shift on the 'Google dance'. That is essentially not taking responsibilty for maintaining and improving your website's rankings.

When you don't have page 1 rankings, your rankings are much less stable. They are bound to jump around a bit. You could just be seeing different rankings as you get results from a different Google data center.

By looking at your website one thing jumps out at me...you don't have enough backlinks for good rankings. You have a PR0 and Google only reports 2 backlinks. Yahoo reports 140 backlinks, but that is still much too low to get rankings in that niche.

You need to work at building more backlinks to your website. You need to get those backlinks on a regular basis and from a variety of sources. You also need to vary the link anchor text a lot too.

I don't think you are penalized as you are still first for 'car price database'. You can get penalized for one keyword if you overuse that keyword as link anchor text.
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How can it be Google dance when the OP is asking about YAHOO SERPS ? in the post title
... also this is the YAHOO forum

I have noticed yahoo serps jumping the last week myself, and they are doing a deep crawl of my sites, so it may be wise to wait a week or so before panicking.

It may help you if you had some more text on your main page, as it looks like a page of little but links at the moment.
This really made me laugh for a second or two. Well, this probably happened because the guy who posted is used to such issues related to Google and not Yahoo.

Back on topic, your position in search engines will never stay stable, you will always see it somewhere else. This happens so that at all times you will be trying your best to promote your site.
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