if writing articles is no good... then what?

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by mel_akey, Jul 26, 2006.

  1. #1
    I'm just confuss'ed :) I thought article submission was the way to get back links... now I'm reading its not so good... what the heck!?
    oh... and if you think writng articles and submitting them IS good... then do you limit the sites you submit to? or do you submit to as many as possible?
    (and what is the 'spam' you are refering to... sorry I'm new)
     
    mel_akey, Jul 26, 2006 IP
  2. TigerGreen

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    send to 6 article directories. send partial shorter versions on your site articles. Not for every article, just an easy way to create an article for the directories.

    Write quality articles both on your site and in your directories then let the links come as they may.
     
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  3. amarventris

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    Have you tried associated content? I write articles for them.
     
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  4. 3dPrinting

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    Articles are not what it used to be because of its rapid growth. It's like having the same meal everyday it gets boring and this is why many have turned to other avenues for attention. Where? Press Releases.

    And before you go tapping into Google adwords if you not know already. Google is dropping affiliate programs off thier list like flies. Sad but true.
     
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  5. glorybeme

    glorybeme Well-Known Member

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    What about exchanging articles with similar themed sites? I have done this, and it creates back links, and it looks more natural to the search engine. It also brings in targeted traffic.
     
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  6. mel_akey

    mel_akey Guest

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    I'm not sure what you mean by the last sentance... I don't use adwords... and what exactly is a press release?
     
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  7. 3dPrinting

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    Press Releases: when you do a search, look above the regular Google ads. There's ads with a different collor background right? Well, those are from Press Releases. and it only takes a couple hours for it to get listed but it must be original and stands out.

    here's an overview:
    A news release, press release or press statement is a written or recorded communication directed at members of the news media for the purpose of announcing something claimed as having news value. Typically, it is mailed, faxed, or e-mailed to assignment editors at newspapers, magazines, radio stations, television stations, and/or television networks. Commercial newswire services are also used to distribute news releases. Sometimes news releases are sent for the purpose of announcing news conferences.

    A news release is different from a news article. A news article is a compilation of facts developed by journalists published in the news media, whereas a news release is designed to be sent to journalists in order to encourage them to develop articles on the subject. A news release is generally biased towards the objectives of the author.

    The use of news releases is common in the field of public relations, the aim of which is to attract favorable media attention to the PR firm's client, and publicity, the aim of which is to attract favorable media attention for products marketed by the client.
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    Where to learn or submit pr's? at prweb.com. OR you can go to my friends place and hook up at LinkMetro.com for link exchange. Its free.

    Oh about that Google thing I told you about. Don't worry it won't matter here for now.

    Have fun,
     
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  8. Paul Ruddy

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    So do we think press releases are really the way forward?

    How long will it be before we see lots of spammy press releases?

    Do press releases generate long term links or is it just a one off hit?
     
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    What are the costs assocated with using prweb.com?
     
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  10. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    There are already too many spammy press releases. But if your release is truly newsworthy you'll get the "real" newswires (not spam-filled at all) like Associated Press (www.ap.org) to pick it up (free), rather than only the news services (not real newswires) like PRweb. The best results always come from manual distribution though (hand-picking media outlets, finding the correct editors, and sending the release yourself with a followup).

    Press releases are one of my specialties as a public relations professional. I have a site at www.allinfoaboutmarketing.com that has a free template you can use, tips on writing and online distribution, and a how-to piece on writing each section of the release. Hopefully that will help you out. :)

    Jenn
     
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    duilen Active Member

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    This is definitely one of the better article writing techniques. Forget submitting to sites for mass syndication.
     
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  12. marketjunction

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    I have been using PR's for about 10 years now. It's not going anywhere. As with anything else, your success is partially determined on your ability.

    Exchanging articles or writing articles in exchange for a link with one outlet definitely works. It's been done for as long as I can think of in various industries (well before the Internet).

    The best policy is to do something and test your own personal success level. Let that tell you what works and what doesn't.
     
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    Articles are for building credibility and getting direct visitors; you'll be enormously successful if you really write quality and a lot of them at that! on a regualr basis (3/week)n submit them to related high traffic sites every week as well as directorys.

    Press Releases are the best for links and I know a site that got something like 30,000 backilinks almost overnight (many Pr8+) but simply taking ten minutes to write one...
     
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  14. John Triscan

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    The problem is that the internet makes it easy for everyone to get involved and it seems that everyone is.

    So two things happen:

    1) Lots and lots of the smae thing and it makes it harder to stand out in the crowd.

    2) Lots of people trying to shortcut success and producing SPAM. Best way to define spam is anything that doesn't add value, which unfortunately is 90%of the stuff on the web.

    At the end of the day, stick with the basics, produce quality information and develop quality relationships with other similar sites. Over time you will grow your biz.
     
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  15. mel_akey

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    how do you go about developing relationships with other similar sites? I mean... won't they consider me as competition? Or are you talking about sites in the same industry but different goals keyword wise?
     
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  16. jhmattern

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    Not only sites in the same industry with different goals, but consider other sites in similar niches (doesn't have to be exact) who happen to be targeting the same audience, and you can work in cross-promotions in a lot of cases.

    My feelings on articles are that you need to be writing unique content for YOUR site... not spending time on promotional articles instead. If you have time to do both, then do what strikes your fancy. But it's unique quality content on your own site that's going to really build you a reputation in any niche, and keep people coming back over time. The problem is that most people don't place value on something that's not a quick fix when it comes to Web work. (well maybe not "most", but a lot) Think about the longterm. A lot of these articles with resource boxes just come across as spam, like John said. Personally, I don't give articles I find on article sites like that any credibility at all simply because anything can do it. So keep in mind that depending on who it is you're trying to target, it can hurt your reputation as much as it can help it.

    Jenn
     
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  17. marketjunction

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    If you can write an article for a website or trade publication, that's better. I started doing that ten years ago to build credibility in areas and it still works today.

    And yes, even articles on article submissions websites build credibility if the article is solid. We must remember that not everyone is in this business. Outsiders look at things through different eyes and that's who matters. It's important to step away. Try getting some people together that are not in the business of making money through Internet marketing. Give them specific tasks, such as going to a website and reading an article, and see how they react.

    You should be doing article submission, because it's an easy marketing technique. I have helped create tens of thousands of incoming links through content marketing, so perhaps my view is jaded.

    If you spend too much time worrying about what other people are doing, you will never rise to the upper echelon of business. Lots of people produce poor ads for magazines. Does that mean advertising in a magazine hurts your credibility or is a waste of time?
     
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    I've written a lot of great helpful and really useful articles and it appears that lately they aren't doing as well as they used to. To top it off article-marketer is taking longer and longer to publish articles and has many glitches which prolong articles being published. I have added submityourarticle.com, but it doesn't have the results of article-marketer.com. I try and write press releases and had several really good ones (had some professional written through Elance and mine were far better) but you can't see much of a difference in traffic. I see others in the same catagory or niche with terrible press releases, if any, and fewer written articles, yet they receive 10 times more traffic and higher Alexa ratings. What am I missing or doing wrong?

    Micah
     
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  19. Paradigm

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    Article Marketing is not as good as it used to be. :(
     
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    Could you tell us why article-marketer.com seems better than submityourarticle.com because I am using the later and am happy but would spend the extra money if I though article-marketer would be of service and not hit the same spots as submityourarticle.

    I also have been using artemis pro for distribution to a select ezine list and that is working quite well.

    So far the things I have stuck with are proven by searches for my pen name after a couple of weeks.
     
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