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Oct 29th 2008, 1:12 pm
#1
Clickbank Commission Fraud
Just a heads up for clickbank affiliates.
I was launching a new website and picked an affiliate who was advertising through the clicbank marketplace. Since I first wanted to test the program, I inserted a proxy and bought a product with my CC through my own affiliate link. No commission was counted on my account.
So, here is a definite proof that clickbank does practice commission fraud.
I've changed my affiliate program now.
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Oct 29th 2008, 1:13 pm
#2
Did you see your affiliate id in the bottom of the order page? Something with the proxy might have filtered the cookie out somehow?
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Oct 29th 2008, 1:24 pm
#3
A lot of proxy sites strip cookies..
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Oct 29th 2008, 1:44 pm
#4

Originally Posted by
wicked9690
A lot of proxy sites strip cookies..
I was just going to say the same thing. - Like Kinitex said - make sure that your CB ID is showing at the bottom of the order page.
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Oct 29th 2008, 1:47 pm
#5
Yes, the ID was there. It was a proxy from my own network and it wasn't high anonymous.
Could something else go wrong? Otherwise, the case would be pretty much clear.
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Oct 29th 2008, 1:53 pm
#6

Originally Posted by
JohnS0N
Yes, the ID was there. It was a proxy from my own network and it wasn't high anonymous.
Could something else go wrong? Otherwise, the case would be pretty much clear.
You may want to contact the merchant that you were promoting and see what they ended up with. I've had a few affiliates contact me, because their adwords conversion code shows a conversion, but it wasn't showing up in their ClickBank account. Then a few hours later it would show up. I would contact the merchant, and Clickbank to see what's going on.
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Oct 29th 2008, 1:59 pm
#7
He is the merchant, he purchased his own product.
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Oct 29th 2008, 2:01 pm
#8

Originally Posted by
kinitex
Did you see your
affiliate id in the bottom of the order page? Something with the proxy might have filtered the cookie out somehow?
This is completely unrelated, but I clicked on your Everloss lander, and thought this was funny:
You will know the discount is activated if you see finditem at the end of the url.
example: ?hop=finditem
LOL
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Oct 29th 2008, 2:07 pm
#9

Originally Posted by
Madman340
He is the merchant, he purchased his own product.
I was assuming that he was not the merchant because of this quote from him above: "I was launching a new website and picked an affiliate who was advertising through the clicbank marketplace."
Meaning he purchased a product he found through the CB marketplace. Is this correct?
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Oct 29th 2008, 2:12 pm
#10
Hmm, maybe your right; I guess I just read it wrong.
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Oct 29th 2008, 2:46 pm
#11
You're sure you saw your aff id there? Because proxies usually strip it, plus I've never seen this before (bought quite a few products myself).
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Oct 29th 2008, 3:18 pm
#12
If CB was actually knowingly scamming people, it would probably be some sort of random script so that this wouldn't happen all the time. Pretty tough to catch if indeed true.
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Oct 29th 2008, 3:42 pm
#13
Do you think they are stupid ? 
They have a great security regarding fraud from your side, so .. in this case, you can be happy that your account is still active !
Do not try to test anything in this way .. better find a friend who can purchase it from his own pc, with his own cc
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Oct 29th 2008, 4:03 pm
#14

Originally Posted by
JohnS0N
Just a heads up for clickbank
affiliates.
I was launching a new website and picked an affiliate who was advertising through the clicbank marketplace. Since I first wanted to test the program, I inserted a proxy and bought a product with my CC through my own affiliate link. No commission was counted on my account.
So, here is a definite proof that clickbank does practice commission fraud.
I've changed my affiliate program now.
Nothing new,they have been doing this from many weeks.Now i hardly promote them.
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Oct 30th 2008, 3:24 am
#15
Affiliate Link Encryption - about time?
The obvious answer, I've seen affiliate links on other networks represented as a string of codes - clickbank could go one step further, and make each hop as an individual encrypted set of codes. That way affiliate id's are always hidden, and encoded randomly each time a hop is generated !
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Oct 30th 2008, 5:05 am
#16

Originally Posted by
DPwebtec123
The obvious answer, I've seen
affiliate links on other networks represented as a string of codes - clickbank could go one step further, and make each hop as an individual encrypted set of codes. That way affiliate id's are always hidden, and encoded randomly each time a hop is generated !

ive always wondered why they dont do this! one of the first things i would do.
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Oct 30th 2008, 7:38 am
#17

Originally Posted by
MediaPlay
Do you think they are stupid ?

They have a great security regarding fraud from your side, so .. in this case, you can be happy that your account is still active !
Do not try to test anything in this way .. better find a friend who can purchase it from his own pc, with his own cc

It doesn't really matter what I do. I don't have any credit cards affiliated with my clickbank account, so the one who purchased it, might as well be another "first name, last name" from "country 1".
I did contact the merchant, who couldn't find any errors. So as it seems it didn't appear in the merchants stats either.
It just got lost somewhere 
I found a better merchant on the CJ network anyway, so I won't waste my time anymore with this. I got my refund, because something also went wrong with the service/product...
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Oct 30th 2008, 8:23 am
#18
I guess this has been discussed elsewhere in the forum too.
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Oct 30th 2008, 10:34 am
#19
I think I smell some real bull shit. Just because you can't promote clickbank products wortha shit doesn't mean clickbank sucks, it means your a loser. Just my opinion.
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Oct 30th 2008, 10:45 am
#20

Originally Posted by
ScoTech
I think I smell some real bull shit. Just because you can't promote clickbank products wortha shit doesn't mean clickbank sucks, it means your a loser. Just my opinion.
what a nice guy.
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