This is to everyone who uses Clickbank; as a publisher or affiliate. What do you like/dislike about clickbank? How would you make it better?
What about a reliable system that is not offline/reject good transactions and whenever this happen we get notified so that we dont spend any more money in vain?
1.Mustn't issue refunds if someone doesn't ask for it. 2.Better marketplace: when you search for something it mustn't bring you 10 pages of s***. 3.Best of the best: average conversion rate per offer. 4.Total number of transactions maybe. I could go on for hours ...
I understand completely why clickbank isn't transparent about problems. I really do. It's like a bank announcing "Hey we're running out of money", it just makes things worse. What I'd like to see is the problem fixed in a 24hr period. If you're not going to be transparent, you fix the damn problem ASAP.
Oh, I noticed this feature at click2sell.eu or something. When you go through the market place it will give the conversation rates of the site. Shouldn't be hard to calculate, 10 people go through the hop link and 1 buys that 10%.
I don't think posted conversion ratio's is a good idea as they can be fraudulent and incorrect. For instance, someone may sign up for one of those traffic swarm kind-o sites and generate thousands of hops and not 1 sale. Or a sneaky affiliate can be stuffing cookies and get no sales but hundreds of thousands of registered hops without sending a single visitor. Affiliates may view this data and decide not to promote a product they could easily convert because of this activity, and good sites could be put out of business by deceptive people by destroying their ratios. Until the tracking system is perfect, posting conversion ratios is not an option
Sheet, i'm a newb at CB but i see so many complaints! Kind of freaks me out since i'm investing 60% of my time and $$ in it
I don't know about you, but as an affiliate, I prefer more data, than less. If you want to talk about "fraudulent" behavior, it is publishers that announce their pages convert a 4% when they really don't. Besides, you could just ban the affiliate doing this. It's not like they're exactly an affiliate that is going to make any money. Also, you can tweak the alogarithm of the conversation rate to people that are converting daily or something along those lines. The thing to recognize is that any system that is put into place can be abused. Gravity is abused. It's just that clickbank doesn't have the balls to start banning people.
IMO, the refund should stay. Conversion rate, trust, and some other things are affected by the refund rate.
Although we would all love to see conversion rates, I think there are too many factors that can affect it. As an affiliate, I have some campaigns that I convert at 1 in 10. Now it is on select keywords and limited amounts of traffic. The publisher has shared with me that the average conversion rate is about 1 in 60. I would lose money at 1 in 60 but do very well at 1 in 10. As a publisher, I have affiliates converting at 1 in 25 while others convert at 1 in 100. Here are just a few things that can affect the conversion rate that has nothing to do with the product page. Mailing lists direct linking vs. landing page PPC vs. Bum marketing Time of day quality of keywords (broad or targeted?) quality of affiliates landing page Geographic origin of traffic Content network on or off? Fraud opportunities (especially from competing publishers) I am sure there are many more. So even though I would love to know conversion rates ahead of time, They really wouldn't mean much without a ton of additional information.
I don't know if you're aware of the concept of banning people that destroy the integrity of the system. I want a good affiliates, not some place some people send shit traffic too with the hope that it might convert. Jerk offs should be banned, cookie stuffers should be banned, people that send 5000 hits a day and don't even make a conversion should be banned. Why? Because they destroy the integrity of system. You can be a very good affiliate network, if you're willing to defend the integrity of the system over d-bags that don't make money.
Sounds a bit like the mafia....If they are not a good earner, whack 'em I am aware of that concept Supper (you might be surprised at how many concepts I am aware of). IMO I don't think the cheaters would be the biggest problem with having conversion rates listed. Some people are better affiliates than others. They convert better. Affiliates with less experience tend to convert at a lower rate. Landing pages tend to convert at a higher rate. And so on. Point is, If you don't know how or where the conversion rates are coming from, then it is meaningless information.
I honestly don't see how you could improve it? Any place you go to will have something good and bad about it.
Really? You don't think it could be better? So far, better payment processing( possibly through google checkout instead of Paypal) secure hosting of digital products, allowing detailed and secure payments with the ability to provide exact tracking and conversions.(no more asking publishers to add conversion codes to thank you pages) Regular communication with all members of updates, outages, new products etc. ( maybe even a daily or weekely newsletter) I think clickbank has a monopoly because no one is willing to compete with them, when it wouldn't take much to make everyone happier
Not to disappoint this thread but there are several other clickbank alternatives, such as click2sell for example which have a huge list of features! But still the main problem is that a clickbank alternative needs a large pool of affiliates and quality products - and this is where clickbank cant be replaced yet. Another important thing is how payments are processed. clickbank is a payment gatway in itself and when thers a sale the money is split between the affiliate and publisher instantly. On the other hand most other networks use third party payment gateways(click2sell, paydotcom) and normally the publisher pay his affiliates manually which is the main problem becuase lot of affiliates get scared that they wownt ever get payed their due commission. So the main problem for a clickbank alternative is to have a payment gateway integrated with an affiliate system....