The "Superbowl" Update

Discussion in 'Google' started by schlottke, Feb 6, 2005.

  1. Blogmaster

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    #101
    I have been watching them for years, their back is against the wall. They are about to be dethrowned. Their disadvantage is being stuck with what they have, the changing back and forth is a sign of uncertainty. They have the informations noone has and are ready to implement it.
     
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  2. schlottke

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    #102
    I don't think they feel they are against a wall, you have to be losing to be put into that position and they are not, but I do agree that these result will likely not stand.
     
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    #103
    im guessing they implemented some algo change and its not working properly
     
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    #104
    more than just that!
     
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    #105
    I wouldn't agree they have their backs against the wall. When you're the number one internet company in the world and keep introducing new products at such a pace as google, you're demonstrating your will to take risks. This latest search change is a risk they took. I don't think it'll stick, but who knows. It seems like the results are changing on what appears to be a daily basis, and are in no way of being consistent like they used to be. I'd wait and see on this instead of making any drastic changes. Caryl is doing a fantastic job documenting any changes, and I am grateful to her for the data she is providing thoughout this event.
     
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    #106
    Looking at McDar's Google dance tool, the results are still wild. I hold top ranking on 2 of the datacenters but not the other 4. Oi vey! When will this end?
     
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    #107
    Yea I notice it too - There does seem to be a minor reverting, although not all my KW's have reverted to their earlier positions..

    I was hoping that this update would stick :(
     
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    #108
    I just wish G would get their act together and settle on something. These wild fluctuations don't do anyone any good. Not G, not us, not joe surfer searching for something. Right now, everyone is losing.
     
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    #109
    I couldn't agree more mopacfan. Up or down, just finish the damn thing so we can all move on. I'm reluctent to change anything until this has settled.
     
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    #110
    Just out of curiousity, do you think joe surfer actually notices these changes. 95% of their searches are a one off and if they continue searching it is different word combinations so they expect them to be different.

    I know a few years ago before I knew all about SEO, I had NO idea this was all going on.

    I did a search, it returned some sites, and I moved on to other things.
     
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    #111
    My bet would be no. I completely agree that Joe is blissfully ignorant of the so-call "Google Dance" and why shouldn't he be? His income doesn't depend on it ;)
     
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    #112
    They may not at first. But if they use a different SE, they (if they have any intelligence) should notice the results are very different. Otherwise, ignorance truely is bliss.
     
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    #113
    I have watched my real estate site go from #1-3 on google to south of 500 in the last few days. When I run the main keyword phrases through McDar the datacenter results all reflect older the #1-3 page position. Am I reading the McDar tool incorrectly?
     
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    #114
    I don't think the result differences really are that bad to be honest. They could keep the DCs flucuating like this to keep SEOs in the dark about their algo changes. I know I haven't done anything to any of my sites for a week because of this.
     
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    #115
    Welcome to the forums homesteader.

    Google has been playing with something the past few days and it doesn't appear that any of their datacenters have the same results. I wish I could give you some advice but I don't have any. The thing I'm doing is just holding on and waiting for things to settle out.
     
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    #116
    Schlottke,

    You and me both... I keep trying to wait for the waves to end, but they don't seem to want to. Even when they do, it will be sometime before others can figure out what happened and why...

    Until then, I will rely on Y and MSN (both of which are providing more and more traffic everyday) and see if someone can figure out this update. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me...
     
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    #117
    I disagree - I think that they REMOVED some filter, or a part of the algo, and now the results are MORE correct - rising for those who were having problems due to rank/pagejacking, etc. But, for every site that rises, one must go down.

    I think Google has not implemented whatever it is on all the servers so that they can study it and find a workaround that does not drop the bomb on sites like mine, buried for a year due to various rank/page jacking sites.

    My backlinks are not all there, way less percentage-wise than most (yes, they are not showing all they should for me, I think it is part of the bug) and when the next backlink update occurs, they will have better looking serps for those who have done things proper and ethically. I am certain that those I have linked to should get a boost from me, as my link pages (almost all my pages) were pushed way down. My DMOZ link has not shown as a backlink for me, and if Google were to show only partial links, I would say that is one they should not, or would not, exclude.

    Simply put: I did not get proper credit for my incoming links, and they did not get credit for my outgoing links.
     
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    #118
    Damn if I didn't just find a new jacker. The redirect url is awfully long, wonder if google would crawl it.

    http: //dr.webservicehosts.com/index.php?tpid=10217&ttid=104&st=hosting%20accept%20paypal&dst=2

    Geez I hope they don't revert to allowing spam like that.
     
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    #119
    I think you now understand why so many of us think the serps from G are so bad compared to what they were a week ago.
     
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    #120
    I feel your pain.
    But consider this: I could not be found for 'web hosting paypal' anywhere. A search for allintext: allintitle: and allinanchor: put me in the top 20.
    Wanna talk about pain? I didn't show AT ALL on that phrase from jan 24th.
    OF 2004
    til the last serp change.
    I was #10, floated around the top 20. Except for Sep 25th-Oct 28th. Was gone then, too. The month before that, watched them slip down to about the 100's before disappearing.
    'hosting paypal' would show me in the 2-300's. Now I am #5.
    Googlebot rarely came, and only skimmed the site. It would take at least two weeks to get any page other than my index updated.
    I only ranked for way out there terms with no value. Not that the phrase above is a big money phrase, but it is worth something.
    'Affordable web hosting' is a good phrase, and I rank in the low 200's now for it, I am watching to see what happens once google gets a good crawl of by backlinked sites. Should go up as well, since that was the phrase the jacker linked to me with.
     
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