The jews bully the entire middle east. It must stop.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ly2, May 9, 2006.

  1. latehorn

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    #41
    1. Nobody respects UN
    2. There's no proofs that Israel has any nukes, officially they don't
    3. UN has no right to force their inspections on a country.
    4. This is the reason why Israel still exist.

    Did you know that Israels neighbours started the wars?
     
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  2. latehorn

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    #42
    That stats is clearly propaganda, even those who support the idea that Israel have nukes suggest 100 or sometimes 100-200. 400 nukes is new to me. 500.000 nukes is better propaganda btw..
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

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    #43
    It's odd, but I don't ever lose sleep worrying about Israel using their (possible) nuclear weapons on New York City.

    No one is worried about Israeli nukes for the same reasons that no one would be worried about Belgian, Swiss, Norwegian, Swedish, or Finnish nuclear weapons. Those countries are modern peaceful democracies, not third-world hell-holes run by crazy theocrats bent upon the destruction of all those who will not bow down to their personal gods.

    There is no comparison between Israel and the vast majority of her neighboring states.
     
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  4. NAZAM.COM

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    #44
    No one? When did you last do a survey of, say, a few hundred million people in the Middle East?

    The way we are going to have a more enlighted conversation and learn is if we try to see things from each other's perspective. I personally am more frightened about Israel and the United States having nuclear weapons than Iran, Pakistan or India.

    Israel is the only country in the world which regularly and overtly assassinates opponents, including political leaders, on soil it has no juridisdiction over and often violates the territory of its neighbours: just yesterday it sent (American-funded) fighter planes over Lebanon and caused bloodshed. It's mother-country, the USA is the only country in the world to have ever used nuclear weapons and is currently threatening a country on the other side of the world with them on a daily basis.

    Try to see things from other people's perspectives, too: if you did a survey around the world, you wouldn't get much affirmation of your statement that "No one is worried about Israeli nukes".

    Not everybody sees from your point of view: survey after survey, for instance, has demonstrated that more people despise the United States than like it - did you know that? Did you know that, in many UN votes, something like 169 countries vote against Israel and only the USA (and maybe one or two other countries) votes for it? How decisive is that as to the world's views on Israel?

    Oh, in reference to your use of "possible" in relation to Israel having nuclear weapons, just because the mainstream American media, under the pressure of the Zionist and neo-Con lobby, does not dare mention them doesn't mean they don't exist. The evidence is out there; search the net. There is no equivocation: Israel has nuclear weapons and enough to blow up the whole Middle East.
     
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  5. latehorn

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    #45
    LOL Azam, how come that you have such strong views about Israel? Too much BBC?

    Anyway, to answer your questions. US have used nukes once and that was in WW2. It saved lots of lives because it put an end to imperial Japan and the war. Any country that would invent nukes would use them under the WW2. Especially if it was Nazi-Germany, London would be dust by now. The only reason that your city exist today is because of massively support from US. Gorings army was more effective than your spitfire shit for months before he made the mistake to concentrate on bombings. Hitler would take your country without the support from US.

    Anyway, you don't want a country that saved your arse to have nukes, but rather a countries that are constantly threating others to have it. The only reason if they don't use nukes is because of fear from beeing repelled. The world without US as a superpower would be a totally mess.

    Israel is on the otherhand using nukes to save themselfs. They have never used it themselfs, never threatted any country with them nor have they started the wars in ME. They have only made pre-emptive attacks for to defend themselfs. It's their right to defend their existance. Why is it good to repeat the holocoast?

    And you may be right that many people that eat the daily antisemitic propaganda is afraid for Israel in having nukes. Most of those countries is however fascist countries without civillian freedoms that we in the westernworld use everyday.

    Question is why are so many countries voting against Israel? Could it be because they either are an islamic country or because of saving themselfs(because beeing against Israel is easier than beeing pro-Israel) or because the leaders of the country are anti-semitic.

    Try to see it from another perspective; The Islamic country Sudan killed more than 100K christians in Darfur recently. Who gives a shit? Anyway, since Israel was founded 58 years ago, no more than 40K people have been killed(both Israelis and Arabs) when Arabs made wars with Israel 7 times.
     
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    #46
    And you know what -- they aren't doing it.

    Also, btw, America also is not nuking the murderous bastards who rule most of the Muslim world.

    Israel is basically saying to the entire Muslim world "please leave us alone", and the Muslim world is respond with "YOU MUST ALL DIE AND YOUR BLOODLINE BE WIPED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH."

    The Israeli's are not calling for the death of all Muslims. The opposite can not be said.

    Really, do you honestly expect any reasonable person to sleep well when the militant Iranian government has posession of weapons enabling it to finally carry out its stated wish of wiping Israel from the face of the earth?

    If Israel or the U.S. were as you describe them, Iran would not exist today.
     
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    #47
    Israel is doing great ;) because it has backup of USA.
     
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    #48
    Not much more than Egypt have tough.
     
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    #49
    Most of the countries of the world have the backup of the U.S. :)
     
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    #50
    what if tommorrow u are forcefully moved out of ur home and asked to live in a camp out side ur own home.... and somebody else comes and starts living in it, in ur presence!

    and then he says to u
    "please leave us alone"
    and adds
    " u keep on living in ur tents and make shift camps but I wont leave"!

    By ur statement it seems u would agree!
     
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    #51
    And why did that happen...
     
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  12. moq

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    #52
    This happened because around 1900 years ago, christians brutally murdered, raped and killed thousands of innocent Jews in Palestine and forced them to leave the promised land. Then around 1400 years back muslims came and made palestine there homeland... muslims had been living in palestine since then, and then one day after world war Christians came with a brilliant idea again, that lets force the muslims out now and settle the jews in palestine after around 2000 years of muslim existence.....
    what a brilliant idea !!!!!
     
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  13. latehorn

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    #53
    Christians came? It was more like a decision taken by jews.

    Palestine has never been a real independent country, only owned by other countries. Many people that call themselfs palestines today was british slaves transfered to Judea, Samaria and Gaza.
     
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    #54
    By jews??? Brits and americans did it... jews were devastated because of the atrocities of Nazis! they had no power to acquire an entire nation! jews never had their own nation till then, The attoman empire was broken after world war and a part of Palestine(mostly muslims and few Christians, with no jews) was gifted to jews at the cost of millions of homeless muslims!!! and that too after 2000 years..... amazing!
     
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  15. latehorn

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    #55
    No jews? You are kidding, Jews moved in at stages since the zionist conference. The biggest stage was however ww2.

    In 1900 there were 500,000 Arabs and 50,000 Jews in Palestine.
     
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    #56
    You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. There are Jewish families in Jerusalem with recorded history of more than 28 generations, that's roughly 1400 years. That's before Arab nomad tribes from the deserts of Arabia ever laid foot in Israel.
     
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  17. Mia

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    #57
    I tend to leave words out of sentences sometimes too. I would proof read better next time.

    I assume you meant to say:

    "This map does not depict anything we don't already know"
     
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    #58
    That's not true. I read in the Kayhan that the Jews were descended from pigs, and that only happened about two hundred years ago. :rolleyes:

    But that's nice, compared to what the newspaper had to say about the Bahai. :D
     
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  19. latehorn

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    #59
    Hmm..

    Jews don't eat pork because it's made on pigs. Means that they have respect for pigs. They must have something in common :p


    /JK
     
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    #60
    WARNING: Old joke coming...

    What Kind of a Sound Does a Cow Make

    Mooooo...

    What Kind of a Sound Does a Horse Make

    Neigh....

    What Kind of Sound Does a Pig Make

    GET OUT OF THE CAR AND GET YOUR HANDS ON THE ROOF!
     
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