Whats after all the 4 letter domains being regsitered?

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by XPlus, Nov 5, 2007.

  1. #1
    Well guys, I see a lot of misunderstanding and underestimating here, it's really shame..

    Let’s try to take an objective look at the future of 4-letter .com domain names

    Firstly, they come shortest after the valuable 3-letter .com domains.
    Secondly, they are .com domains, which the most popular tld out there.
    Thirdly, good letter LLLL.com domains are selling for USD$100-10,000
    Fourthly, (xqyz) aren't they just a bunch of "so-called" bad letters?
    & lastly, they've been registered so fast recently.. 3 weeks ago I’ve expected they all be gone by 3 or 4 months time at that rate, but they all been registered a couple of days ago at rate of 1000 per day..!

    Anyway, what does that tell?
    Well, for me, it tells that these domains are very popular, and as they've been registered now, they've became a rare product, and rare products have an increasing price because the demand is usually higher than what's available..

    Okay, let’s think about it this way:
    There are 6 billion people out there, only 1 billion of them are using the internet right now, and the rate is sharply increasing, both in world population and internet users. Besides, the virtual world which we refer to as "internet" is just too young. It’s only less than 20 years old. And it’s great hit in human's life..

    Could you imagine how is it going to be like 10 years from now?...., maybe few billions joining the track and many of which come from different nationalities. The Chinese for example, they love meaningless domains with short letters..
    In addition, in future more companies, projects and organizations are going to be established. Subsequently that means more acronyms. Isn't possible that these acronyms could just match some of the 4-letter domains?, and then owner can sell them for good price?..

    And for consideration, zmnm.com is one example of domain names unpronounceable and containing 1 "so-called" bad letter, though it sold for 10000 early this year, is that too bad?

    Moreover, if we come to think about it a little bit more, we'll see that there are a quite few possibilities for those domains to be utilized.
    I personally registered few LLLL.com domains, and found that some of them could possibility stand for an acronym; some are pronounceable and most have good traffic. And then i picked up my calculator and started to calculate averages and multiplying them by 12 month..
    I ended up with a decent sum, won't really buy me a new PC, but least I’ll be happy if i can get 100% of the registration fee back..

    To sum up, the future of 4-letter .com domains can't be predictable for sure. However, from assumptions about internet-using growth generally and domain market tendency especially, it can be predicted that the 4-letter .com domains prices will zoom up sharply in the future.

    peace[​IMG]
     
    XPlus, Nov 5, 2007 IP
  2. meetgs

    meetgs Active Member

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    agreed. due to their rarity prices will go up.
    prices will be high but not that high :)
     
    meetgs, Nov 5, 2007 IP
  3. olddocks

    olddocks Notable Member

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    next will be 5 letter domains
     
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  4. XPlus

    XPlus Peon

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    We’re talking about a long-term investment here mate..

    not just a couple of LLLL's to be sold in a couple of years times..

    by using the right tools, i think an LLLL.com owner can get their registration fees back while they're waiting for the domains to sell, and might even make as little or as big profit as they wish, all depends on their effort and how good the LLLL.com's really are..


    lets take this for an example: registering 50 LLLL.com @ 5.95 each, the total fees will be $297.5 a year..

    considering that these kind of domains have some type-in traffic coming in between now and then, lets say that u can gain 1 buck a day if each domain gets you $0.02 a day, which means $265 a year. and that is a 20% loss..

    well, that sounds good to me as long as i'm not doing anything more than parking it with Sedo. And even if it's price reaches 20 bucks like what some people are just presuming, that still gets $700 profit which is more than 100% profit.


    this is just a simple calculation for the least an average 4-letter.com owner might get, not meant to be an actual measure for this investment.

    I personally think that the actual figures depends on how good the owner utilizes the domains.. :)
     
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  5. XPlus

    XPlus Peon

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    oh yeah ;)
     
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  6. kohashi

    kohashi Well-Known Member

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    I see a lot of new speculators hoping this is a gold mine. I see a growth of people trying to invest in domain names and being overly optimistic about how well their domains will perform. I see people expecting type in traffic on all the names (domain tasting ring a bell for anyone? think these names HAVENT BEEN TRIED?! they are only registering and dropping millions upon millions of names...) I think there will be a reseller bubble, not much though, still tons of 4 letter names expiring. I don't see a huge price increase, and I don't think it's coming. Scarcity doesn't create added value, demand does. I own the only 'fillinadomain.com' and it's unique, with your logic it should be infinitely vlauable. I had some decent 4 letter .coms, but I aim for words, things with obvious meaning, I don't think these qyzx style names are going to see some huge demand bump. All those who just bought the rest of the 4 letter .coms, would you pay me 15$ for the ones I bought or are you hoping I will buy yours?
     
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  7. XPlus

    XPlus Peon

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    gold mine... :)

    that's nothing of what i'm thinking of..

    i'm just thinking about long-term investment and profit here..

    never talked about getting some meony out of nothing, i've mentioned quality and effort..


    the problem mate is, that you think you are alone in this market..

    well, i'm an arab myself, and do observe the arab market..

    if u were looking at domains like this:

    f8f8.tld
    k3k3.tld
    r5r5.tld
    l00l.tld
    dxdd.tld
    etc..

    they really make a good buy for some people..

    don't bother to ask what the hell are they going to do with it anyway,
    obviously from what i can see a bulletin board, chat service and file uploading system..

    anyway, its a good market out there for some people, that they actually make a living of..

    and from what i heard, and what i've witnessed, this applys to the chinese market, too..

    i'm not defending the LLLL.com domains out of nowhere, i'm just another user looking for the good stuff out there, and somethings look good, until it can be proven otherwise..
    and when otherwise is proven i'd support it..
    i've parked few LLLL.com domains with sedo, and i'm very happy with the daily revenue..


    it was really funny for me to see someone in another thread making up a website to make fun of the 4 letter domains, and it actually turned up to be a chinese company website :)


    regards..
     
    XPlus, Nov 5, 2007 IP
  8. kohashi

    kohashi Well-Known Member

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    :confused: You mean other people buy domain names too?
     
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  9. XPlus

    XPlus Peon

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    its just a figure of speech..

    if you're not taking discussing this thread seriously or you're just being rude, can you please stop posting to the thread?


    and by the way,
    your apprisal script seems to give my 4 letters domains a good result..
    at that prices i can give up a gold mine if i was offered one :p


    cheers
     
    XPlus, Nov 6, 2007 IP
  10. meetgs

    meetgs Active Member

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    XPlus, when you said "long-term investment", how long would that be? More than 10 years?

    You also mentioned that we can get some decent money from LLLL.coms by using the right tools. What, exactly, do you mean by "the right tools" ?

    Lastly, how can we drive traffic to the domain names?
    I think we can eliminate type-in traffics and search engine results from the possibilities. Why would people want to type "xkjq.com" into their address bar? And "buyflowers.com" is much better for SEO than random "zqxj.com".

    Thanks for elaborating...
     
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  11. kohashi

    kohashi Well-Known Member

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    My appraisal script is piss poor. The dataset is too small and not random enough. The metrics are mediocre. It was actually a good tool to show domains CAN'T be appraised in an automated fashion and even by experts I don't think there can be consistent results. I will hopefully be pubilshing the details of all that one of these months in www.DomainersMagazine.com ... watch for it.
     
    kohashi, Nov 6, 2007 IP