Putting someone with no experience as the head of FEMA for one? Powerplay between the governor and him for total control over the national guard? "I believe is what it was, would have to check my bookmarks which are on a different puter '
So two years of handling hurricanes well, and one state (a Democrat controlled state at that) can't get THEIR part right, and this meant he had no experience? Does he get credit for all those hurricanes that went well? Powerplay. The only power play was the Governor. Well documented. Might note that things went relatively smooth in other states that were hit. But by all means, blame Bush for her inaction and inabilities
Nope, I mean the (I *believe* as I recall reading) there were a great deal of hurricanes over the past years that were dealt with quite well. But, I really should spend more of my time trying to come up with how Bush failed. That would be a better challenge, since no one seems to be able to do it very well
Other states hit #1 were totally different, not even a comparison. So because the governor did not want to release all power to the president for the national guard this is automatically her fault, how exactly? Of course I guess he could get credit, but someone with no experience can handle much smaller disasters much better, not to mention he could 'stir' things up a bit more over a couple of years making when the hurricane hit more his policies decisions into place than the originals where things 'went well' I'm actually blaming both sides, you however are dead set yet again that Bush and his policies did no wrong, blame the democrats in all instances in this case it appears. BTW off topic but for those interested I am noticing a back link update on my effected site!
Choose from these: Iraq 1. Failing to build a real international coalition prior to the Iraq invasion, forcing the US to shoulder the full cost and consequences of the war. 2. Approving the demobilization of the Iraqi Army in May, 2003 – bypassing the Joint Chiefs of Staff and reversing an earlier position, the President left hundreds of thousands of armed Iraqis disgruntled and unemployed, contributing significantly to the massive security problems American troops have faced during occupation. 3. Not equipping troops in Iraq with adequate body armor or armored HUMVEES. 4. Ignoring the advice Gen. Eric Shinseki regarding the need for more troops in Iraq – now Bush is belatedly adding troops, having allowed the security situation to deteriorate in exactly the way Shinseki said it would if there were not enough troops. 5. Ignoring plans drawn up by the Army War College and other war-planning agencies, which predicted most of the worst security and infrastructure problems America faced in the early days of the Iraq occupation. 6. Making a case for war which ignored intelligence that there were no Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. 7. Deriding "nation-building" during the 2000 debates, then engaging American troops in one of the most explicit instances of nation building in American history. 8. Predicting along with others in his administration that US troops would be greeted as liberators in Iraq. 9. Predicting Iraq would pay for its own reconstruction. 10. Wildly underestimating the cost of the war. 11. Trusting Ahmed Chalabi, who has dismissed faulty intelligence he provided the President as necessary for getting the Americans to topple Saddam. 12. Disbanding the Sunni Baathist managers responsible for Iraq's water, electricity, sewer system and all the other critical parts of that country's infrastructure. 13. Failing to give UN weapons inspectors enough time to certify if weapons existed in Iraq. 14. Including discredited intelligence concerning Nigerian Yellow Cake in his 2003 State of the Union. 15. Announcing that "major combat operations in Iraq have ended" aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln on May 1, 2003, below a "Mission Accomplished" banner – more U.S. soldiers have died in combat since Bush's announcement than before it. 16. Awarding a multi-billion dollar contract to Halliburton in Iraq, which then repeatedly overcharged the government and served troops dirty food. 17. Refusing to cede any control of Post-invasion Iraq to the international community, meaning reconstruction has received limited aid from European allies or the U.N. 18. Failing to convince NATO allies why invading Iraq was important. 19. Having no real plan for the occupation of Iraq. 20. Limiting bidding on Iraq construction projects to "coalition partners," unnecessarily alienating important allies France, Germany and Russia. 21. Diverting $700 million into Iraq invasion planning without informing Congress. 22. Shutting down an Iraqi newspaper for "inciting violence" – the move, which led in short order to street fighting in Fallujah, incited more violence than the newspaper ever had. 23. Telling Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan about plans to go to war with Iraq before Secretary of State Colin Powell. Counterterrorism 24. Allowing several members of the Bin Laden family to leave the country just days after 9/11, some of them without being questioned by the FBI. 25. Focusing on missile defense at the expense of counterterrorism prior to 9/11. 26. Thinking al Qaeda could not attack without state sponsors, and ignoring evidence of a growing threat unassociated with "rogue states" like Iraq or North Korea. 27. Threatening to veto the Homeland Security department – The President now concedes such a department "provides the ability for our agencies to coordinate better and to work together better than it was before." 28. Opposing the creation of the September 11th commission, which the President now expects "to contain important recommendations for preventing future attacks." 29. Denying documents to the 9/11 commission, only relenting after the commissioners threatened a subpoena. 30. Failing to pay more attention to an August 6, 2001 PDB entitled "Bin laden Determined to Attack in U.S." 31. Repeatedly ignoring warnings of terrorists planning to use aircraft before 9/11. 32. Appointing the ultra-secretive Henry Kissinger to head the 9/11 commission – Kissinger stepped down weeks later due to conflicts of interest. 33. Asking for testimony before the 9/11 commission be limited to one hour, a position from which the president later backtracked. 34. Not allowing national Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice to testify before the 9/11 commission – Bush changed his mind as pressure mounted. 35. Cutting an FBI request for counterterrorism funds by two-thirds after 9/11. 36. Telling Americans there was a link between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda. 37. Failing to adequately secure the nation's nuclear weapons labs. 38. Not feeling a sense of urgency about terrorism or al Qaeda before 9/11. Afghanistan 39. Reducing resources and troop levels in Afghanistan and out before it was fully secure. 40. Not providing security in Afghanistan outside of Kabul, leaving nearly 80% of the Afghan population unprotected in areas controlled by Feudal warlords and local militias. 41. Committing inadequate resources for the reconstruction of Afghanistan. 42. Counting too heavily on locally trained troops to fill the void in Afghanistan once U.S. forces were relocated to Iraq. 43. Not committing US ground troops to the capture of Osama Bin Laden, when he was cornered in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan in November, 2001. 44. Allowing opium production to resume on a massive scale after the ouster of the Taliban. Weapons of Mass Destruction 45. Opposing an independent inquiry into the intelligence failures surrounding WMD – later, upon signing off on just such a commission, Bush claimed he was "determined to make sure that American intelligence is as accurate as possible for every challenge in the future." 46. Saying: "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories." 47. Trusting intelligence gathered by Vice President Cheney's and Secretary Rumsfeld's "Office of Special Plans." 48. Spending $6.5 billion on nuclear weapons this year to develop new nuclear weapons this year – 50% more in real dollars than the average during the cold war – while shortchanging the troops on body armor. Foreign Policy 49. Ignoring the importance of the Middle East peace process, which has deteriorated with little oversight or strategy evident in the region. 50. Siding with China in February, 2004 against a democratic referenda proposed by Taiwan, a notable shift from an earlier pledge to stand with "oppressed peoples until the day of their freedom finally arrives." 51. Undermining the War on Terrorism by preemptively invading Iraq. 52. Failing to develop a specific plan for dealing with North Korea. 53. Abandoning the United States' traditional role as an evenhanded negotiator in the Middle East peace process. Economic 54. Signing a report endorsing outsourcing with thousands of American workers having their jobs shipped overseas. 55. Instituting steel tariffs deemed illegal by the World Trade Organization – Bush repealed them 20-months later when the European Union pledged to impose retaliatory sanctions on up to $2.2 billion in exports from the United States. 56. Promoting economic policies that failed to create new jobs. 57. Promoting economic policies that failed to help small businesses 58. Pledging a "jobs and growth" package would create 1,836,000 new jobs by the end of 2003 and 5.5 million new jobs by 2004—so far the president has fallen 1,615,000 jobs short of the mark. 59. Running up a foreign deficit of "such record-breaking proportions that it threatens the financial stability of the global economy." 60. Issuing inaccurate budget forecasts accompanying proposals to reduce the deficit, omitting the continued costs of Iraq, Afghanistan and elements of Homeland Security. 61. Claiming his 2003 tax cut would give 23 million small business owners an average tax cut of $2,042 when "nearly four out of every five tax filers (79%) with small business income would receive less" than that amount. 62. Passing tax cuts for the wealthy while falsely claiming "people in the 10 percent bracket" were benefiting most." 63. Passing successive tax cuts largely responsible for turning a projected surplus of $5 trillion into a projected deficit of $4.3 trillion. 64. Moving to strip millions of overtime pay. 65. Not enforcing corporate tax laws. 66. Backing down from a plan to make CEOs more accountable when "the corporate crowd" protested. 67. Not lobbying oil cartels to change their mind about cutting oil production. 68. Passing tax cuts weighted heavily to help the wealthy. 69. Moving to allow greater media consolidation. 70. Nominating a notorious proponent of outsourcing, Anthony F. Raimondo, to be the new manufacturing Czar—Raimondo withdrew his name days later amidst a flurry of harsh criticism.
71. Ignoring calls to extend unemployment benefits with long-term unemployment reaching a twenty-year high 72. Threatening to veto pension legislation that would give companies much needed temporary relief. Education 73. Under-funding No Child Left Behind 74. Breaking his campaign pledge to increase the size of Pell grants. 75. Signing off on an FY 2005 budget proposing the smallest increase in education funding in nine years. 76. Under-funding the Title I Program, specifically targeted for disadvantaged kids, by $7.2 billion. 77. Freezing Teacher Quality State Grants, cutting off training opportunities for about 30,000 teachers, and leaving 92,000 less teachers trained than the president called for in his own No Child Left Behind bill. 78. Freezing funding for English language training programs. 79. Freezing funding for after school programs, potentially eliminating 50,000 children from after-school programs. Health 80. Not leveling with Americans about the cost of Medicare – the president told Congress his new Medicare bill would cost $400 billion over ten years despite conclusions by his own analysts the bill would cost upwards of $500 billion over that period. 81. Silencing Medicare actuary Richard Foster when his estimates for the Administration's Medicare bill were too high. 82. Letting business associate David Halbert, who owns a company which stands to make millions from new discount drug cards, craft key elements of the new Medicare bill. 83. Underfunding health care for troops and veterans. 84. Allowing loopholes to persist in Mad-Cow regulations. 85. Relaxing food labeling restrictions on health claims. 86. Falsely claiming the restrictions on stem cell research would not hamper medical progress. 87. Reducing action against improper drug advertising by 80 percent. Environment 88. Abandoning the Kyoto Treaty without offering an alternative for reducing greenhouse effect. 89. Counting on a voluntary program to reduce emissions of harmful gasses—so far only a tiny fraction of American companies have signed up. 90. Gutting clean air standards for aging power plants. 91. Weakening energy efficiency standards. 92. Relaxing dumping standards for mountaintop mining, and opening the Florida Everglades and Oregon's Siskiyou National Forest to mining. 93. Lifting protection for more than 200 million acres of public land. 94. Limiting public challenges to logging projects and increased logging in protected areas, including Alaska's Tongass National Forest. 95. Weakening environmental standards for snowmobiles and other off-road vehicles while pushing for exemptions for air pollution proposals for five categories of industrial facilities. 96. Opposing legislation that would require greater fuel efficiency for passenger cars. 97. Reducing inspections, penalties for violations, and prosecution of environmental crimes. 98. Misleading the public about the Washington mad cow case and the likely effectiveness of USDA's weak testing program. 99. Withdrawing public information on chemical plant dangers, previously used to hold facilities accountable for safety improvements. Other 100. Cutting grants to state and local governments in FY 2005, forcing states to make massive cuts in job training, education, housing and environment.
No thanks Rob, I know what kind of sites those are made up on: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...A's+weak+testing+program."&btnG=Google+Search Nothing new for me. I've been saying for quite some times you take both sides of issues. I didn't say Bush did no wrong with the hurricane. I asked to provide something valid. You didn't. Rob couldn't find anything, so he posted some "progressive" talking points to cover it up. Blame Bush on the hurricane, but for what? Yep, it's all his fault
Again how is it taking both sides to say both sides fucked up? That is realy nothing more than running away from what I stated, that is not taking both sides! Stating this in itself tells me that you can't even say Bush did something incorrect as then you'd be in your own words 'taking both sides' give me a break, there is a clear difference. I did bring up completely valid points, of which you tried to justify them w/o success in my opinion, maybe in yours but not even close in mine.
What happened is a hurricane hit an unprepared city. So what are you guys up to today? I'm working on a few sites and trying to figure out what the hell Google is on about.
Rob, when you post things like this it really lowers my respect for you. As I was reading the list and knowing the answers to most of them and thinking this looks like a Bush hater list not someone who is thinking on their own - I then searched the internet to find that it was copied from a site: Most of the list can be easily disproved or rebuttled without manipulation. Sure there are some items on the list that may be true, but after going over the first half, it probably is very few. I can say this about Bush and some of the things that have gone wrong in the last 5 years - He may not be at fault but it is his responsibility. So when some things have gone wrong under him, he may not be the one that caused it but it is his responsibilty to step up to the plate and deal with it. But Rob, I don't want to lose my respect for you, I think most of the time you post legitimate opinions, etc..
Same here, and glimmering of hope that Gtech can for once admit Bush made mistakes, love him or hate him nobody is perfect and they do make mistakes, at least admit it But I guess I should get to work, or possibly 12 ounce lifts, haven't decided yet.
When did GTech not admit Bush makes mistakes? I've never seen him claim that. If you want him to admit that the hurricane was Bush's fault you wont get it. I would never admit something as silly as that either.
Bush has apprehended control of the U.N.'s Weather machine and is using against those states that did not support him. He is trying to create enough disaster that he will be able to shine like Rudy and easily ratify the constitution to continue his presidency into the future. Then to make this an monarchy! DUH!!!! Don't you know anyting Eric!!!
Not his fault but it is his responsibility. BUT we also need to deal with those whose fault it was- Am I not correct?
So you would rather spend the several weeks after a disaster trying to point fingers rather than fix the problem and look for a positive future?
Yes, it's a "Bush Hater list". And it's no secret that I HATE G.W. BUSH's actions and policies! I don't know how accurate EVERYTHING on that list is but it looks pretty good to me. And I never meant to give the perception that I wrote all of that stuff. Especially within ten minutes of Gtech's post! Yeah, I'd like to see you or anyone here try!
Yes partially and some of his decisions do have a direct impact on what had happened. I am not saying he caused the storm, he was even 50% responsible, simply that some policies should be questioned on it even if it's only .0000001% of the blame.