Did Scotland Make the Right Decision in Releasing the Lockerbie Bomber?

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  1. calum

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    #21

    And none of that proves it was him. The evidence for the bomb, what happened on the day etc. is strong, but the evidence linking him to the bombing is incredibly weak at the best, and in a huge number of people's opinion built on lies.

    Scotland could have:

    1. Released him on compastionate grounds, been humane and let him die where he lives - with the justice system still in tact
    2. Let him carry on with his appeal. He will either inhumanely die in prison, or he will finish his appeal, win, go back to libia and leave the justice system in tatters/
     
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  2. ThraXed

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    #22
    I don't live in Scotland dick head.
     
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  3. ChaosTrivia

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    But your attitude towards the justice system in where you live, England, is no different? or let me know how is the English justice system better than the scottish. you do live in a place which did not give refuge to poor uneducated and intolerant muslims at all. A country which is on a goose chase and a crusade to kill everything "pure" and so "peaceful" such as that what Islam represents, right?

    Tell us more about how it feels like being a giant in the land of the liliput. I was never part of a society that didn't want me around, whose values I did not share at all, and whose justice system I do not trust. How does it feel like to be an alien, who doesn't share anything in common with the people in his country of residence? This is interesting.

    p.s. to everybody:
    Was there a civilian airliner who was kidnapped/brought down EVER in history, not by muslim terrorists? from my memory I can recall something like 15 events, but none which didn't involve muslim terrorists. If anybody happen to know of such an event (civilian airplane attack not conducted by muslims), please share it with us. ThraXed?
     
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  4. calum

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    #24
    It happened roughly 20 years ago, the justice systems in all parts of the Uk are now completely different.

    Why do you bring muslims and immigration into the UK into a discussion about the SCOTTISH decision and justice system? It has nothing to do with it.
     
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  5. ChaosTrivia

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    calum, I am not an expert on the issue. I guess neither are you and surely not ThraXed. Or have you read the records of all the trials and saw all the evidence? I guess not.
    My best knowledge of the issue comes from a 60 minute fascinating National Geographic show I have seen. From what I remember, two people recognized the guy: the guy who sold the detonating watch and the italian guy. Plus, his name was on the passenger list of the connecting flight, but for the next flight he just checked in the bomb, and did not board. That's all. At least according to NATGEO.

    The swiss marked each watch they made. They were the ones who first led investigators to Megrahi, by identifying the buyer of the specific watch used for taking the plane down.

    Well for me it doesn't matter that much. so maybe Gadaffi "framed" him. The important thing is: that a country was behind this event, who admitted, paid money to compensate the victims, and as far as i'm concerned, case closed.
     
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  6. ThraXed

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    #26
    What on earth are you talking about? You are quite possibly the strangest person i have ever encountered. :eek:

    I am white, i am English, the difference between me and you is, i have more than one brain cell and am not blinded by nationalism.
     
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  7. calum

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    #27
    Neither am I, but I actually know more about it than having watched a 60 minute documentary - I live 2 and a half to 3 hours by car from Lockerbie itself.

    He only recognised the convicted man because he saw his photograph in a newspaper a few days earlier, this has been found out now.


    What? :confused:

    Your sentences also make sense, the second last post made by ChaosTrivia I just can't understand what he is even saying.
     
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    #28
    I'm watching it now.
     
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  9. ChaosTrivia

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    yea! that one! but that's just the first 1 minute... too bad we can't show it to ThraXed in full. probably they played it on TV when he was in the mosque getting some more hatred from his cleric.
     
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    #31
    Not sure if you're getting the same page as me but it shows the program chopped up into several parts for me.

    Part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLLUXDuuPdw

    Part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLssCv_m2SY

    Part 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqp1QrNy8cA

    Part 4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhKNSFHMN8w

    Part 5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6vL2VycxVg
     
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  12. ChaosTrivia

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    Oh thanks. I will watch it again now. Very nice show.
     
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    #33
    Parts 4 and 5 are the ones that deal with linking the particular piece of luggage to the bomb, the bomb to the timer and the timer to the Libyans.

    Oh, and he wasn't arrested until '99 and was sentenced in 2001.
     
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  14. ChaosTrivia

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    #34
    I watched it for the 2nd time and got excited for the 2nd time.
    Too bad they didn't put the beast who did it on the electric chair instead of letting him visit home.
     
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  15. imad

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    #35
    Yes, there were many, here are some:

    source



    Who Remembers LAA Flight 114?
     
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  16. ChaosTrivia

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    #36
    hey I actually thought you found something for a short moment!
    then I started by following the links and landed on a site like by a 12-year-old having women looking at me from the page with their face behind a rag so I got scared and shut down the browser.

    If you can quote any of the following sources, I will take a look on what you post: nytimes, bbc, australian, latimes, der spiegel, wikipedia, cnn, or any other western journal.
    thanks. I was searching for a non-muslim terrorist attack on a civilian airliner and couldn't find.
     
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    #37
    you could not find because none happened? or you could not find because you did not search good enough? there is a difference

    also about the links I provided you, are you saying it did not happen at all? or it happened but not in that way mentioned in the articles?
     
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  18. ChaosTrivia

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    Imad I just didn't read a single line. Before I read something I make sure that the source is reliable.
    I did not search good enough, just a little, and I couldn't find. For the good name of your people, please find at least 1 civilian airliner which was attacked/kidnappened/brought down - but not by Muslims.
    The statistics are BAD if looking at them from your site. I think something like 20 to 0 so far.
     
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    then maybe you should read them, then tell me, if they happened or not, or if they happened but not as they say in these links as provided.
     
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  20. ChaosTrivia

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    #40
    I do not read "agenda" sites, wheather they are:
    zionist (saying only things that are good for zionism and "forgeting" all those who aren't)
    islamic (saying only things that are good for islam and "forgeting" all those who aren't)
    buddhist (saying only things that are good for buddhism and "forgeting" all those who aren't)
    feminist (saying only things that are good for women and "forgeting" all those who aren't)
    antisemite (saying only things that are promoting antisemitism and "forgeting" all those who don't)
    , I leave these website for you. They are meant for you.

    I read sites that do the best to tell ALL of the truth, and nothing but the truth. One independent site is never enough, two is a border case, three different non-agenda independent websites: I can start to accept it as truth.

    Without reading your sources, if they appear only on your kind of websites and not on any of mine, not even a single one, they are false beyond any reasonable doubt. Anybody with a 6 year old brain can understand that, I'm sorry you can't.

    This has to do with the "follow blindly the quran"-education you received: you were never taught how to judge evidence and asses the probability that x y z is correct. Or, the most basic scientific education. You simply don't have the analytical tools to do it. Just look at yourself "demanding an investigation" after reading a 2 page tabloid ridiculous crap which was denounced by the whole world in the other thread.

    In your world: everything that matches your wishes, is true. everything that don't: is not. this is the kind of thinking one needs to have if he is religious.
     
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