Obama for president or Palin???

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by BiafranMan, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #21
    Absolutely correct. Obama gets trounced on the "experience" card, when compared to John McCain - but the issue was that McCain hammered him, rightfully, on it, Obama took Biden, and McCain took the erstwhile mayor of a town of 6,500 people, who never left the country before last year.

    I actually personally like John McCain, and bow in honor to his service. I sincerely wish him a happy, long, and well-deserved retirement. I simply think he's wrong.
     
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  2. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #22
    You don't have to justify who you vote for to me. You just have to justify it to yourself. Regardless how many times you prop obama's experience and work up on a pedestal it is not impressive. Obama is not qualified and a person can cast a vote for any reason. McCain is more qualified and a man of character. Palin has accomplished more in Alaska than Obama has in his state.


    When Obama is through with office we will need someone from the far religious right to straighten out this nation.
     
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  3. northpointaiki

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    #23
    Though you'll note the exchange has largely been with sonighost, it is apparent you must be confusing me for someone that is directing my posts to you, or gives your viewpoint any consideration whatsoever.

    If you need a clue as to why, consider your post above, a post like any other post, in my experience - "Obama isn't qualified because...uh...he isn't qualified...and..uh, you're WRONG!....and uh....did I say, uh, you're WRONG? Because...uh, you're WRONG!"
     
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  4. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #24
    An my exchange was with Pizza

    But you did. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=9125749&postcount=19



    Here are some of the highlights of a great article.


    Palin and the Beltway Pundits by William L. Anderson

    "Furthermore, she and her family attend an Assemblies of God church in Alaska, as opposed to a "respectable" church that Beltway pundits might attend (if they go to church at all). (The Assemblies of God are part of the Charismatic movement, which clearly earns derision in the "sophisticated" Beltway, where everyone knows that the purpose of organized religion is to further the American state.)

    Indeed, we are seeing how the pundits love to "romanticize" the "working class" just as the Marxists have said nice things about the "proletariat," but actually seeing so-called "working people" as being anything more than political symbols is something else. After all, "working people" don’t go to "respectable" churches and even like NASCAR, and are not alarmed about Global Warming. The "working stiffs," like children, should be "seen and not heard," except if they can agitate for higher minimum wages, most preferably at rallies organized by people from the Beltway.

    Second, we are seeing the ultimate Beltway hypocrisy when it comes to children. Leftist blogs like the Daily Kos and Pandagon tried to claim that the Down’s Syndrome child she recently bore really belonged to her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, and that Palin faked her pregnancy. (Actually, that would be quite a feat, since Bristol is five months pregnant and Trig, the Downs boy, was born to Sarah Palin this past March.)

    In fact, the whole issue with her five children brings us to another important insight about the Beltway Culture: the people there like children in the abstract, but not in reality. Children mean something only if one can make a political statement about them, or if they are being brought up in government day care centers and government schools. In other words, the only value children bring to the Beltway is that they are a nice backdrop for promotion of state-run programs. Their value is in their political symbolism, and nothing else.

    The fact that Palin and her husband chose to have the Downs Syndrome child rather than aborting him also seems to have angered feminists. After all, nine of 10 women who find through pre-natal testing that their child is Downs will have an abortion, so the fact that Palin did not exercise that "choice" has made her even more hated by the pundit class. (The screed by Arianna Huffington herself pretty much sums of the Beltway attitudes toward this woman who dares not to take orders from the Anointed Ones.)

    Of course, with the Beltway Crowd, sooner or later it always comes down to sex. It seems that the blogs exploded with anger when the news came out that Bristol Palin was pregnant and would be marrying her boyfriend. How dare they not use condoms! How dare she carry that child to term and not have an abortion! And so on.

    It seems that Sarah Palin is not a big fan of having graphic sex education is public schools, so we are told that somehow her child must have been unaware of birth control methods. (Perhaps she should have gone to the nurse’s office, where in most schools they hand out birth control pills.)

    Ultimately, the response of the Beltway Crowd has boiled down to this one viewpoint: Sarah Palin and her family are not like the rest of us. Therefore, she is not qualified to be Vice-President of the United States.

    The issue of so-called qualifications is another Beltway creation. You see, one can gain "experience" only by having lived in the Beltway or by being a player in the Beltway political culture. This is the political culture that has given us $500 billion federal deficits, financial bubbles, galloping inflation, an energy crisis, murderous wars overseas, unemployment, an exploding prison population, crime-infested inner cities, the Drug War, and brutal suppression of dissent."
     
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    #25
    <<Sigh>>.

    Actually, the relevant quote was taken from your response to sonig, but I understand it's difficult to keep track.

    READ, Homebiz, please - read. Did "largely" need to be in all caps? Yes, when you post something that is in my opinion so cockamamie as to say, with a straight face, Sarah Palin's time as mayor of a 6,500 rural Alaskan town somehow trumps Obama's life experiences, training and native ability, there's a chance I'll say something in reply. More often than not, anymore, I'll just laugh, quite honestly.
     
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    #26
    homebizseo = karl rove
     
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    #27
    Obama leads legislators with votes of present. Voting present is a little known trick to hide your positoin.
     
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    #28
    :eek:
    ...........
     
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    #29
    I wish I had time for this but I have to make some money :D

    #1 problem in this country is that people don't want to want. Everybody wants a government handout. People nowadays don't even want to cut their own lawn and hire illegal aliens to do it for them.
     
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    #30
    I have heard many people say that Obama was going to make them rich when he became President. I have never heard Obama make any statement that could be interpreted as this claim. Obama has made a few statement about taxing the rich and sharing the wealth and this may be what people are picking up on.


    Some folks that are caught up in the welfare cycle do look for handouts and do not care if they work or not. I hope that this is only a small minority of the the people in the welfare system.

    Obama Hope in Obama is no hope.

    Obama is the Great White Hope

    Obama is a Good?
     
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    #31
    Here is a little interesting and ironic detail:

    Obama-Biden is uncomfortably close to Osama Binladen

    A bizzare coincidence or a strange Freudian slip?
     
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  12. northpointaiki

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    #32
    Brilliant catch. I think it's hands-down proof. My fellow citizens, we are about to invoke jihad on ourselves, with this Manchurian Candidate.

    Of course, I was troubled by the John McCain-Sarah Palin ticket. I mean, c'mon.

    John-Sarah.

    John-Rah.

    Sounds dangerously close to genre, doesn't it? WHAT genre are they pushing? Porn? The ticket is legalizing porn, everywhere?????!!!

    Also, don't forget, last names....Cain-pal.

    Cain-Pal, what the hell is this? A friend of Cain, the first murderer in human existence, from Genesis's accounting of it? The ticket is now declaring itself a friend to murderers?

    AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! RUNNNNNNNNNNN!!!

    Uh, :rolleyes:
     
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    #33
    I got an entertaining email from a relative that I thought was appropriate for this thread:
     
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    #34
    Here is an email that I received from a friend:

    An email from Ireland to all of their brethren in the States...a point to ponder despite your political affiliation:


    'We, in Ireland, can't figure out why you people are even bothering to hold an election in the United States.

    On one side, you had a pants wearing female lawyer, married to another lawyer who can't seem to keep his pants on, who just lost a long and heated primary against a lawyer, who goes to the wrong church, who is married to yet another lawyer, who doesn't even like the country her husband wants to run !

    Now...On the other side, you have a nice old war hero whose name starts with the appropriate 'Mc' terminology, married to a good looking younger woman who owns a beer distributorship !!

    What in God's name are ya lads thinkin over in the colonies !
     
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    #35
    You do know that the Irish love beer.
     
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    #36
    I'm voting for Obama and I hope he wins.
     
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    #37
    the republicans had been in control for way too long...I mean look at the gas prices....they dropped the gas prices because of the elections...and as soon as that is over they will go up again...and all the republicans do is cash in the money that they are giving by the gas companies...WE NEED CHANGE. NOT MESS UP THE COUNTRY EVEN MORE. WHO IN THE HECK WANTS ANOTHER BUSH IN OFFICE? COMMON...Obama is a very smart man and he will own McCain in any argument

    Obama all the way (but still am a Ron Paul supporter :))
     
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    #38
    If Ron Paul wasn't running, who would he vote for?
     
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    #39
    Yeah, every time I fill up I want to hug a democrat for blocking access to domestic drilling every chance they get.

    Last I heard some of the highest penalties levied against "big oil" were enacted by the governor of Alaska... her name's Palin or something.

    Bush isn't running, but I'll bet his capslock key isn't stuck.

    Bet Obama even knows how to spell "Come on"... but we'll check this thread after Friday to see how he did without a teleprompter. Should be interesting.

    Funny you should say that. Sunday Ron Paul said Obama is clueless about what to do about the economic crisis aside from knowing he ought to try and blame it on John McCain.
     
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