Houston Mexicans Planning a Day of Shut Down

Yeah, no shit!

 

No, I don't have an easy solution to the problem. It's not transparent. There is no easy answer. Just like many of the worlds problems, many people are quick to judge and close their mind. Obviously we can't let anyone come and go as they please, but at the same time, if you have any compassion for fellow human beings, are you going to leave them behind a fence to starve and die when they're willing to work their asses off just to have food and a crowded room to sleep in?

No Rob, it has everything to do with the fact that people:
A) Don't give a shit about them
B) Exploit them
C) Are racist

If you've been to Arizona... you should see how people look at Mexicans, and how they treat them. I see it every day.

I'd be willing to bet anything that you've never worked half as hard a day in your life as most of these guys do every single day. See this kind of comments rob... this is the kind of attitude that keeps people treating Mexicans like second-rate human beings.

Do you live under a rock? They don't get 'normal' jobs. They stand on the corner of a busy street next to a gas station in groups of 5-25 waiting and hoping for a truck to come pick them up. Then they get paid $10 to do landscaping, tree trimming and hard labor all day in the desert. Or they work under the table for small companies doing the same exact thing... hard labor, outdoors in the desert sun.

 

And that's just the kind of bigoted remark we need to prove how UNTOLERANT liberals are of other people's ideas.


If Mexicans worked in Mexico their living conditions would improve!

I like Mexican people. That's why I want to see our little neighbor succeed.

 

You're absolutely clueless, buddy!

 

Yes, I'm sure your governor has called a state of emergency due to the number of Illegal immigrants flooding into Chicago

 

Let's try to think critically about this yo-yo...let's see if we can agree on something first. Do you or do you not think it's a problem for the U.S. that people can come from across the world and enter the U.S. illegally at the Mexico border? Yes or no?

 

Not sure what you mean by that....

 

Of course it's a problem. Until our borders are safely guarded, the entire "war on terror" is a complete joke.

What I personally think should be done, is that the process be sped up (get fingerprinted, get an ID, after a quick background check, you get in the country - 2 hour process).

Then you make it a huge crime for anyone to employ a worker who is not signed up.

Of course it's not a complete solution... but it's better than kicking everyone out, or letting everyone come and go undocumented.

What I mean is, our governor has called a state of emergency due to the number of illegal immigrants crossing into Arizona. That's how bad it is here. I see them everyday. I talk to them. I see the way they are treated, I see the way they are looked at. It's everywhere I go. To say I'm "clueless" is a joke.

 

Cool...so we agree on more than one thing. That's a relief. I'm not sure if you're suggestion would work, but it's a suggestion at least. Now, what about the illegals who are here? Amnesty?

 

Eh, don't get so happy. Yo-yo will eventually fall on the ol Liberal tactic of using circular logic on ya.

By the way, I clicked on your "edited movies" link, and my eyes are still ringing from the purple Adsense ads. Jesus, dude.

 

What like our current laws? All employers require SSN.

They are all felons if they work here. They commit identity theft, stealing SSN to be employed now. They HAVE to have a SSN to work here, so they steal one!

And you STILL didn't respond to my point that Mexico's living conditions would improve if Mexicans worked there. Most of them are just taking advantage of our lenient laws and benefit systems. Free hospitals, education, and they can not pay taxes and we don't enforce!

And you want to be lenient with this country? Illegal immigrants in Mexico are jailed for 3-5 years. Protesters are jailed for LIFE.

We really need to raise the issue about the ABUSE OF HUMAN RIGHTS in Mexico!

 

If they have no criminal records, they should be the first ones signed up with the fingerprinting and ID cards. They get a time limit to sing up , and after that they are criminals.

I already covered this in the posts above.

Mexico City is the 2nd or 3rd largest city in the world. They do work there.

Mexican laws and rules don't neccessarily reflect Mexican people's beliefs and values. Just like America's illegal, sloppy, savage war in Iraq doesn't reflect my beliefs or values.

How about the abuse of human rights right here in USA? Jailing without trials, searches without warrants, phone taps without warrants, corrupt police, corrupt government officials, etc.. etc..

 

They already are. Identity theft, HELLO?!

GONNA RESPOND TO EITHER OF MY POSTS?!

Or just conveniently ignore the truth?

 

I responded twice already

here
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=826896&postcount=22

and here
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=826998&postcount=32

 

LOL!

You edited your old post to add new responses. I see them now.

Very funny. Don't try to pull that.

Sure they do! A vast majority of them work for farming companies and corporations. Hell, Circuit City "contracted" their work out to smaller company who uses illegals. That way the burden is not on them.

 

Actually no I didn't. I made those responses literally 10 seconds after I made the first part of each post. If you didn't read it... then you didn't read it. If i had gone in and edited old posts, they would say they were edited.

 

OK...let's just say for now that this is what happened. Your plan got pushed through Washington, and it's in place. Just think with me here...Now, the time limit just passed and people like myself are calling for the government to go ahead and enforce the law that was enacted and prosecute or deport these criminals. Are you not going to be right here in these forums calling us uncompassionate and racist and selfish for wanting to break up these families and send them back to Mexico (or wherever)?

Somehow I think you are. You see...they are already criminals. Why would you want to enforce the law then when you don't want to enforce it now?

 

Yea, 10 seconds later. But I went in with my response during those 10 seconds.
It will only say you edited if you edit after 5 minutes. I posted within 3 minutes of your post.

And why is it that your response to fixing a problem is pointing out another? So you'll ignore human rights abuses in Mexico, because we wiretap civilians? You wanna talk about corrupt officials... my my, MEXICO?! Hello?! The Mexican Army helps smuggle in drugs to the US!

That's just ridiculous.

 

yeah, easier said than done. if you were a legal immigrant and you waited the time period and went through all the hoops to be a citizen, i doubt you would be the last person to want your illegal brother, aunt, cousin, etc. to be granted amnesty.

ignorance is bliss...

 

No, if they have been given an opportunity to become legal, and disregarded it, then I will the first one to say, throw them out.

The difference is, currently - it's near impossible to come here legally. Good people, who will work hard their entire lives and never cause a problem can't get over here legally right now.

The only crime they've commited is wanting a better life and a chance to work hard - they're even willing to accept unequal treatment, poor living conditions, shitty jobs and racism just to live here. That's not criminal.