The emperor wears no clothes. Dubya...is the perfect example of this fairy tale

It is the issue, you made it the issue in post one. That you continue to perpetuate the lie clearly shows your disregard for what the truth is. Apparently, wishing something were true is more important. Nothing new

 

Do you have ANY idea... how IGNORANT you sound?

Fascism? You act like you hate Facism. Funny. Call it what it is. NATIONAL SOCIALISM Nazi's ARE SOCIALISTS. COMMUNISTS!

Bush is EXACTLY like another President. A Socialist called FDR.

FDR lying to the American public about knowledge of Pearl Harbour, to excuse his war against the Germans.
FDR increasing the size of the government more than any other predecessor.

George Bush is a regular old FDR of his time.


Newsflash: BUSH IS NOT CONSERVATIVE

BUSH IS Moderate-LIBERAL

He supports a more liberal plan than the McCain-KENNEDY bill. Etc.

Conservatives believe in small government, balanced spending, and secure borders.

 

I heard that ABC wants to rename the next season of "Commander in Chief" to "Commander in Leak".

 

Two actions were taken virtually simultaneously to discredit Wilson, who disagreed with the assertions that the Iraqi's were purchasing items to help in building Weapons of Mass Destruction.

One was to declassify the information that disagreed with Wilson. The other was to suggest that his wife, a CIA operative got him to go on the trip and be responsable for the investigation and report.

Leaking the name of a CIA operative is criminal. It generated an investigation which started in 2003 and only recently ended with a charge(s) against Libby.

Now it just comes out....long past the actions were taken that Bush okayed declassifying this material. They didn't tell us then that Bush declassified the materials.

The two situations are tied together. They were taken so as to discredit Wilson's claims made in a New York Times editorial. If that isn't a package deal...what is? If all they did was release the classified information but not reveal the identity of a spy there would be no big deal.

At this point we won't know if the word came down from on high to reveal the identity of Valerie Plame. It will take time to follow up on all this.

I wouldn't want to be loyal to an administration that would set me up...because my spouse disagreed with the administration...and could point out where their logic was off.

Let's face it. The reason this is a criminal activity is because revealing the identity of a CIA agent could get them killed.

We won't know for a while if Cheney or Bush actually said something like this...Scooter baby. Rat on Wilson and Valerie Plame. Let them know this was a junket arranged by his spy wife. Make sure the press knows that he is not to be believed. We will publish documents that disagree with his comments.

These investigations take time.

Meanwhile who still believes the emporor is wearing clothes???

The basic report was false.

Why would anyone want to believe this administration.

This is why he has been wearing no clothes. Finally, the population is wise to this situation.

 

I agree on 2 of these 3 parts. Definitely small government and definitely balanced spending. I'm a little confused by the alien/border issue.

The no clothes wearing emporor keeps telling everyone that continued tax cuts are good good good.

Well if that is the case he better do some very drastic expense cutting...and he isn't close to that.

 

Yea true.

What I meant by secure borders, is the typical strong army, defense stance of conservatism. Not an open invitation to communist neighbors to invade.

Over 30,000 mexicans a day are rushing into the USA thinking they can get amnesty.

They are about to elect a communist military general who will make Hugo Chavez look peaceful.

 

Yes, I don't think he had any significant amount of WMD.

And why would he move them before we went and started a war there? What the hell did he have them for if not to use them against an attack?

He obviously had WMD at some point...MANY MANY YEARS AGO.

If he had anything left they were surely "expired". Bio/chemical weapons typically have pretty short shelf lives (from what I understand).

Iraq went through some pretty tough inspections for many years. He probably didn't have the capacity to make any WMD.

Powell's little presentation was a farce...and everyone knows it!

 

My guess is that the WMDs was either:

1. Hided
2. Internally destroyed
3. Moved to Syria and Iran.

The reason why I don't believe that it was a lie is because if it was a lie, than they would lie that they have found them too.

 

We found mustard gas, and sarin as well in Iraq loaded in artillery.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html

Those are banned weapons under a previous UN resolution. NOT TO FORGET, UN Resolution 1441, was not that HE HAD weapons. But that he would not comply, and STOP RESEARCHING weapons!

We knew he didn't have a NUCLEAR bomb! We wanted to stop him from GETTING a Nuclear bomb!

I swear it's like Americans forget the truth after 2-3 years. Amnesia?
Does nobody remember UN Resolution 1441?

 

HAHA! So True!! If he lied, why didn't Bush just say "we found weapons".

Haha... it'd be easy to stage!

 

It would have been difficult to fake. If they had found anything substitive they would have reported it in an instant. What they found was very minor. It certainly was nothing someone would start a war over. This is not an administration that would have been "shy" about reporting its findings.

But the weapons of mass destruction were the most minor issue when it comes to the difficulties of this administration saying things that people can believe.

After all everyone thought there were weapons. It was probably to Saddam's advantage. He had the Iranians, Saudi's, and the entire West giving him leeway for fear of WMD. Jeez, his own generals were discouraged to find that he didn't have wmd and gasses.

Regardless, the entire world thought Saddam had weapons.

It is on every point since then that the Bush administration says things that don't pan out.

And now with his current poll numbers...the public is starting to say...."this emporor is buck naked!!!!!"

 

Saddam did have weapons. We have satellite imagery of nuclear materials in Syria with a French insignia on them. It's been known that economically desperate France has been doing this for years. Such lovely allies we have.

The real issue is: WHY TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH?!

Why tell the US that Saddam moved nuclear materials to make a weapon with to Ba'ath Syria?

That would mean WAR with Syria. Which we weren't ready for!

We didn't want to overstretch ourselves. Maybe once we're done with Iraq, then we'll tell the truth and take Syria too.

 

DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?!

HELLO?!

EVEN I could pull it off. Take some Cesium 137 and load it into Iraq, make a quick dirty bomb. Geez.

US agents did it in Canada, and brought it thru the border agents to determine the ease of smuggling a bomb into the USA.

http://www.canada.com/globaltv/national/story.html?id=fe68a189-1e01-4393-abf7-c43c040439dd

If a few lone FBI agents can smuggle it into our own country, intelligent CIA can do it in Iraq.

 

yadda yadda yadda, the war was mistake and people will say anything rather then admit they were wrong

 

How does something that doesn't exist, get looted?
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=283617&postcount=2

Like these people?
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=283676&postcount=4

Wonder what Bill thought, long before Bush was around?
http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/

Look at who was ready for war!

Absolutely convinced!

 

yadda yadda, rather than have an intellectual debate you'll just completely ignore facts rather than admit you're being manipulated by elitists.

 

Quote: National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley

"we were wrong" about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction


Bush acknowledges faulty Iraq intelligence

"President Bush accepted responsibility on Wednesday for going to war with faulty intelligence,...

“It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq,”

You can tell us, how did WMD existed when Bush and Hadley claim that it didn't exist? Do you mean Bush lies about it's existence or may be it is so secret that president doesn't know and only corporal Gtech has seen it?

 

In my very first post, I acknowledged that throughout the world people believed Saddam had WMD.

He had them before this war started. He had them long ago. He used chemical weapons on Iraqis. (nice guy huh?)

Some have assumed now, post Desert Storm, and the years of UN surveillance to keep him from building WMD again, that he faked having these weapons again, to keep everyone else on their toes.

Who knows for sure. Saddam is a madman. And he was secretive. In fact he kept making claims that weren't true. He told his people and the world stuff that you just couldn't believe.

I guess that makes Saddam an emporor without clothes!!!


Now I don't mean to compare the two clothes less leaders....but I wonder who their tailor is?
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My main point all along has been that people can't trust what Bush says. Now we have the Chief leakster in the White House. We don't know NOW whether he "ordered", through Cheney, to reveal the identity of the CIA operative, or if he arranged to declassify related materials to get the ball rolling in attacking Wilson, who disagreed with him. But that is only because the information just came out. It has taken two years of investigating before charges were brought to Libby.

Finally, though, the population, as seen through polls, that the administration can't be believed.

BTW, since the emporor has not been wearing clothes...I wonder if the American taxpayer has to pay for his wardrobe. If so that wouldn't be too bad. He hasn't been spending much.

But we know the two events are tied together directed at Wilson and his wife for disagreeing with the administration.

 

First, show me where either have claimed they didn't exist[ed].

Is there a reason you intentionally and deliberately took Hadley's comments completely out of context, without a source, again?

Full transcript of Hadley's comments, since gworld doesn't have the integrity (again) to post the full context of them:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=610647&postcount=102

Shameful gworld

 

The Iraqi Weapons of mass destruction are in Syria.

For Satellite Imagery Proof go here, you lazy idiot who can't even google for facts:
http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php

The Bush administration knows this but does not want to spark a war with Syria. France and Russia assisting in moving the materials with mobile stations for the laboratories. This is called covering your ass, as the UN was involved in a scandal with the Oil-For-Food bribes. Russia was caught giving night-vision technology to Iraq as well.

Saddam was Ba'ath. Syria is Ba'ath. 2+2=4.