Republicans Are you thinking of switching Parties due to GWB

Im just wondering who here is considering switching parties because of the policies of GWB.

 

Nope, not in the least bit! I wonder how many Democrats are considering switching parties due to the policies of Cynthia McKinney, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Howard Dean?

 

Tom Delay and Jack Abramoff are in the news again today.

 

HA HA .. We got a Dictator in Office not a president... he is not held accountable

I think that alot of Republicans would deny him to eat at their homes after seeing all the soldiers killed over there because they didnt have a simple thing called body armor ... but ..... I better reserve my true feelings about George Adolph Bush

 

Adolph Hitler killed millions in concentration camps and was responsible for millions more because of World War II. Don't lesson his evil by comparing someone you dislike politically to Hitler; it only reflects on your poor education and lack of general understanding of history.

When all is said and done, in 10 or 20 years, historians will look back at Bush as a failed President who got into a bad war, and committed many other mistakes, but in the end, he will be no more "evil" or "Hitler-like" than other Presidents who have made mistakes and gotten into bad wars (Clinton, Bush I, Nixon, Kennedy, and basically 1 out of every 3 Presidents ever elected, if not more).

Having said that, I never voted for Bush, so there.

 

My wife and I are leaving the Republican party, but not for the reason you listed. I was originally a "Kennedy Democrat." I was in the Boston hotel ballroom in the early 1960s celebrating Ted Kennedy's first election to the Senate. But it didn't take long for him and his fellows to move the party well to the left of where his brother JFK had been. So I bailed out.

Same for the current Republicans. They campaign on being the party of smaller government and fiscal restraint. On these and other issues, they took control back in 1994. Since then they've been on a spending spree, and government has gotten bigger and bigger under their watch.

So it's "good-bye" Republican party for me -- but not because I'm somewhere in between them and the Democrats. I'm not. I don't trust any of the Democrats, and I don't trust most of the Republicans. I'm going to register Independent and let them compete for my vote in the arena of ideas, not the arena of incumbency protection.

 

LOL I was thinking about becoming a democrat but they have absolutely no agenda. In fact, I am losing faith in the American Democracy as a whole. To me it just seems like everyone is really only out for big business. I am a traditional liberal believing in caution change and a small limited government with maximum liberties for the people. To me it seems that I no longer have a party in which to choose from.

 

Yeah, Bush sucks, I mean look at this list of bad things that he have done..

1. Ensuring a high growth rate
2. Responding the 9/11 attacks
3. Freed Afganisthan
4. Freed Iraq
5. Reforming the social security

The problem is not Bush actions but more likely the perspektive of America. Why just looking on all "bad" stuff. Why not look it from a more objective angle?

 

Well, let's be realistic here. I don't think Bush is or should be the sole reason for anyone to switch party affiliations, but let's look at some of the credit you're throwing his way:

Responding the 9/11 attacks
As in? What was exceptional about his response? Taking seven minutes to register "the country is under attack"? Cheerleading to the cameras from a pile of rubble at Ground Zero? Pointing to Afghanistan on a map and saying "bomb this"? I would ask why five years later we still can't find the 6' tall guy carrying around a dialysis machine in a territory smaller than Alaska? I'm not pointing out the negative here, just asking the obvious.

Freed Afganisthan
So they could begin feeding Christians to the lions...

Freed Iraq
Many of whom's people resent it, or at the very least are slightly ungrateful and very poor hosts.

Reforming the social security
When did this happen? That initiative fell to the floor with a deafening thud.

I don't want to bash Bush, it's not the topic of this thread, but let's not give false credit to false idols.

On topic, neither party is representative of the majority anymore. they've both traveled too far from center to solidify their cores and only pander to the middle ground with election time rhetoric.

 

Excuse me Sir , I am not going to argue with you ... I will state a simple and plain historical fact - in modern times there has been only 2 leaders that pushed heavily for a law the says children are property of the government
One was Adolph Hitler
The Other is George Bush

I suggest you read up on the law he pushed real hard for and got passed and he signed call the Safe Families Act and the Reasonable Efforts Mandate - where it written so that any child born in the USA after Jan1 2001 is property of the US governerment .... and the birth cerificate is in effect a title lean deed to the US Government ... Most people dont believe this and they say that is impossible and they never heard of such a thing ... But as a childrens rights activist I have sat in a few courtrooms and a few lawyers offices.

And Secondly I have had plenty of my heritage killed by Adolph Hitlers evilness as I am a Polish American
I have been in the chambers at Stuthoff .. I have ssen the piles of pulled teeth and hairs ...

I hasve seen the tattoos on my families arms and I have seen their tears

So.... when it come to ignorance of the uglyness of Hitler ... your dead wrong ... I am well aware of it...

But I ask you if you have seen the pictures of the little children that were killed over there because of his claims of weopons of mass destruction claim .. that made it neccessary to BLITZKRIEG the towns ...

I am glad to see Saddam gone from there and I commend him for it ... but He LIED LIKE HELL to do it ...... its funny how they will investigate Clinton and run him through a ringer for the sex thing .. which really isnt effecting a mass amount of life or death and billions of dollars ... but no one wants heads to roll over His Lies of mass destruction

There are many other similarities or Bush as a dictator , but I will leaver it alone

Sorry if I offended anyone

I really didnt mean to compare the atrocities that Hitler did againt the many Poles Russians and Jews but the simiular things like the pariot act and other laws and illegal wire tapping just is a flash back of a Dictator

 

Well ScottBannon, I am glad that you agreed that Bush has accomplished an economic miracle. Growth is ten times more important than anyone of the other four points I mentioned. But I can answer them anyway..

Well, you are welcome to ask more in the loose change 911 thread. As it isn't confirmed that the 9/11 was fake, let's stay with the official fact, ok

Afganisthan is a democracy and the people chosed their own anti-christian government. The majority finally rule, but unfortunally, the majority was retarded. It's however still a democracy and the people was freed from the taliban regime.

Well, the majority in Iraq hates Saddam. Although, he's still very popular among the sunnies. Anyway, Iraq is free from a dictator that oppressed the sunnies and the kurds. Most Iraqis is happy for that sake.

Fell? He's working with it. More information here.

Stop whining

 

"...a territory smaller than Alaska"? Maybe not a good comparison. I know Alaska well. I lived there 15 years. I've flown to its North Slope, to its southwestern parts, and to the extreme southeast panhandle. You may not be aware that if Alaska were superimposed onto the Lower 48 states, it would stretch from the Pacific to the Atlantic Oceans.

 

ALL the words on the internet cannot convince me that they cant find him ... but for what ever reason they dont want to


I wont get into conspiracy theories .. but something isnt right

 

latehorn, I don't even understand your reply to the 9/11 point. I said nothing about the attacks being fake. Where did you even get that from? What I said was the response of Bush was not exceptional by any means and that the very least we should have expected was OBL in custody within 5 years.

You can twist the definitions of democracy with feedom, but they are two different things. Does democracy now exist in Afghanistan and Iraq? Well, sort of in a loose usage of the word. Are the people of Afghanistan or Iraq free? Absolutely not.

Jim4767, point taken on the Alaska comparison. It is a huge state (the largest), but still just one of 50 which we manage to police effectively everyday.

 

Maybe most people don't believe it, because it isn't true?

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...+"Safe+Families+Act"&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5

So it might be safe to reword your statement:

This is interesting:

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...le+Efforts+Mandate"&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=29

 

When was the last time you saw a dictator elected, not once, but twice? That spring air will do a number on the senses.

Ignorant. Ask house democrats about body armor. Someone is quite confused. I love watching people who cannot think for themselves make feeble attempts at sounding knowledgeable on certain subjects by interjecting little blipverts from out of context quotes, media bias, and just plain ignorance.

Someone's either been drinking with Ted, or counting splinter wounds with John. Yikes. These are the types of people that vote nut jobs like McKinney into office.

 

If Bush lied (which he didn't), that would make these people liars as well:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=283676&postcount=4

Wonder what Bill would say? Let's see:

http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/

 

For those of you discussing why we can't find Bin Laden, I suggest you just listen to the president himself

Apparently our genius monkey of a president doesn't care to find the person he claims responsible for murdering our citizens and causing 2 wars.

 

You mean those are the only two quotes he's ever mentioned him? Wanted, dead or alive.

How does one deal with the cognitive dissonance that suggests on one hand, Bush was so smart as to pull an inside job on 9/11 that only young angry white males with low IQs can see it, solicit hurricanes and signled handedly cause global warming, while on the other hand, referring to him as a monkey?

Actually, unca bin claims responsibility as well.

 

Sorry Scott, I was recently reading the loose change thread.

Well anyway, it isn't Bush job Osama. It's the armys job. It's easy to say that the situation were uncomplex but in the reality it was very hard as it came so unexpected.

Well the definition for the word 'free' isn't strict, it's loose. Free beer, isn't free beer for those under 16 and can't buy it etc.

Are the people in Afg&Iraq free? From an invidual perspective, no. From a public perspective, yes. Why that? Well the public is fierce against invidualists. Who's to blame? The public of Afg&Iraq.