United States Heading towards a Depression?

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  1. mercuryyy

    mercuryyy Well-Known Member

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    #581
    Wow this is some hevy stuff.

    I'm from israel, right now the USD is worth 3.5 NIS (New Israeli Shekels) A year ago it was worth 5 NIS
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #582
    naw , a republican idea would be to go and buy the biggest truck/suv possible with heloc loan , then maybe put a yellow sticker on the back or perhaps some bumper testicles

    at least in Florida it would, it most areas of southern florida, they are totally anti-bike and pedestrian, you drive or you don't go, no matter how short the distance is, part of being a red state I guess
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #583
    The Fed is not in the driver seat. Inflation in China is out of control and China will be forced to further revalue the Yuan.

    China's consumer price index climbed 7.1% in January from a year earlier, accelerating from a 6.5% rise in December

    Data released Monday showed producer prices climbed 6.1% in January

    Tuesday's CPI data showed food prices climbed 18.2%

    China's broad measure of money-supply growth, M2, expanded 18.9% on year in January

    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...x?guid={AE92EB65-2B95-45C5-848B-D160783E8345}
     
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  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #584
    Here in WI and in nearby Chicagoland it's the other way around.. The libs are all driving the hummers, wasting fuel to drive 3 blocks and otherwise pollute any chance they get.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #585
    Thanks for the update Bogart. I always enjoy this stuff when you post it.
     
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    smatts9 Active Member

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    #586
    Jobless Report tomorrow along with the Philadelphia FED Survey.

    They'll probably both blow.
     
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  7. korr

    korr Peon

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    #587
    It was humorous watching the financial news this morning before the reports. The talking heads were in a mini-panic mode predicting things like $50 plates of chicken wings & french fries.

    Then they started pushing gold & their parent company's stock. I think the inflation is about to hit stock prices because they were telling people to stay away from it at all costs :rolleyes:
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    Link courtesy of LRC Blog,


    WORST FINANCIAL CRISIS SINCE 1931?
    German State-Owned Banks on Verge of Collapse
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,536635,00.html

    Excerpt
     
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  9. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    bogart Notable Member

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    #590
    Duetsche Banks owns around 10% of Cleveland and has suffered a lot of losses. 70,000 homes have been forclosed on and a lot of the homes are becoming run down and abandoned. So it becoming a total loss.

    Search on the internet there and you will see a lot of these homes selling for approx $10,000.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    I figure HonDaddy, Bogart and WisdomTool will appreciate this article.

    Very interesting.

    Bernanke's Surprise
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north608.html

    Excerpt
     
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  12. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #592
    He should be using M2 as a more accurate guide instead of M1, but that difference will not significantly alter his statements. His assertions are quite disturbing but who is Gary North, is he an authority capable of saying what he is saying?
     
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    PhD in Economic History from UCR.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #594
    IMHO academically he is well qualified to comment on this aspect of economics. But my next question would be, this is a very serious issue. There are a lot of other as qualified persons if not more working for the think tanks and the presses etc. I have not heard any such comments from them. If such a situation occur, there should be alarm bells going off everywhere. guerilla, I am not doubting you, just curious that why aren't the alarm bells going off.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #595
    Dude, our government spies on us, tortures people, performs extraordinary rendition and on and on. There ain't much in the way of alarm bells going off on that. It's Saturday, people are going to the mall to shop, and stuff their faces.

    Who cares what he says, or who he is? Look at his data. We need to learn to be able to analyze the data for ourselves. Relying on pundits is risky business.

    I do know this though,. Gary North hates the FED and is no friend of Bernanke. In this article, he's basically admitting that Bernanke is very shrewdly trying to do the right thing by the economy.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #596
    Bernanke is trying his best, but the conditions does not favor him, I won't say he is inept just that he took over at the wrong time. Not matter how shrewd you are, you are screwed by the circumstances.
     
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    Forumhorizon Banned

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    #598
    Nothing of the sort is happening, we would not even know of any of this if the media hadn't hyped up nothing and fed us these ridiculous made up stories. The economy overall is strong. There are a few weak points with housing and idiots not understanding credit cards, but that can be easily fixed.

    Offer larger tax cuts for people who buy houses, and stop forcing banks to make high-risk loans.
     
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  19. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    It would be my honor to hear about the easy fixes of the housing and credit card defaults issues that you have mentioned.

    Wonder if you would be so kind as to share them with us?

     
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    #600
    We all wish it was that easy.
     
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