I would rather live in a Zoo

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Look at the bottom of this page linked above, if Google is NOT involved in spyware, why does their lead attorney fear new laws against spyware being proposed?

Why is he scared? What does he have to fear if Google is not engaged in spyware?

 

We better have the Senator's office look at you Shawn, have you seen the page from his office.

You are not transfering infromation to a third party. I have agreed to let you use my information in this forum.

You are not a mass media business subject to regulations like Google is.

Can you answer the question on why Google's lead lawyer is worried about spyware laws, could it make their business worthless in one day?

 

Lawyer are concerned about everything. Certainly Google is collecting information as part of their business model. A good lawyer would be concerned about people with your level of paranoia influencing the law maker for no good reason. This doesn't make what Google is doing "Spyware".

Spying is always covert. It appears to me that Google is very upfront about what they are doing. The beta release of Gmail was accompanied by a huge publicity campaign and national media coverage. That isn't how spies normally work.

 

The Google toolbar is a self updating spyware tool, did you read the web page from Mike Healan that I originally linked you to? SEE LINK IN POST #58 right here on DIGITAL POINT Forums folks.

It records the each search you make, what search results you clicked on and follows you from web page to web page while enabled to show Page Rank. That is why Google hypes up Page Rank as something of Value, to fool folks into using the enabled tool bar so they can record their every move online. You need to read the toolbar privacy policy closer.

 

So you are admitting that the toolbar enables Google to follow you around the internet? You say it tells them which pages you are on, is that not telling them what you clicked on?

 

But Anthony. So fucking what? Everyone with an ecommerce web site is running some kind of tracking software that tells them where each visitor comes from and what they do once they reach your web site.

What is your conspiracy theory about Google? How are they misusing this information? What harm are they doing to us?

Let's have some actual cases here. Quit all the bullshit innuendos. Show us how anyone has been damaged. Show us how the information is being misused.

We are trying to give you a chance to make your point, but you just continue to find Google guilty without ever letting them come to trial. You're the lawyer for the prosecution. Now make your case. Show me the beef! Show me the money?

 

Shawn, did you read Mike Healans commentary on the auto updater feature of the toolbar in the link in post 58? it is the spywareinfo link on that page.

If Google or Alexa's business is not based on the information collected, can you give a reason on why they collect it? Is it for the good of mankind? Why do companies report your credit rating, why do banks check your credit score before giving you a loan.

Google has admitted that they seek to use this information to target more relevant ads to web surfers through the ADSENSE program. They will eventually get better if allowed to do keystroke tracking, if they are allowed to do this they can run pop ups at you while you are typing, is that where you want the internet to go?

 

Bob you keep asking for more, well when I give you some information, do you really look at it or are you here to shake my tree, you know Bob one day a big apple is going to plunk you right on the head.

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Look at the above page and really read the links this time instead of just asking more questions, maybe you can explain some of the things you learned by reading true research. I did not make these stories up, I am simply a messanger.

Do you know that Jeff Bezos the Chairman of Amazon is a early shareholder in Google, he bought a large amount of shares for 6 cents a share. Do you know that Amazon owns Alexa? Do you know that the Alexa toolbar is considered spyware, but for some reason the Google toolbar does collect as much or more information and it updates itself without users knowledge. See the link in post #58 on the page you will see a link to spywareinfo, Mike Healan the wrtiter talks about the Google toolbar, NOTE, the only thing I agree with him on is the autoupdater part of the article. He is in error on the other facts, as he is hedging for some reason or does not know the whole story.

 

"Unlike other toolbars, this information gathering is used only to make Google a better, more accurate search engine, not to target advertisements at the user." Quote from Mike Healan's article above.

That is a false statement, he does not really know anything about this or he would not have made this statement, the guy's is a spyware expert. Like I said he is hedging a bit, the only fact I agree with him on is the unauthorized auto updating of the Google toolbar without users permisssion or knowledge.

 

Like I said he is in error, I did state that on my web page also, but you brought it up again so I mention that he is in error. He is hedging like I told you Shawn.

 

Anthony,

You even disagree with the people you are trying to use to support your point. If they say "A" that supports you, you quote them, but if they also say "B", "C" & "D" that refutes your contention then you and you alone decide that they are uninformed.

Apparently you are right and the whole worlds is misinformed.

Come on Anthony, give us a break. You have no evidence of Google misusing any information they may or may not have gathered. Your case is being laughed out of court.

I will grant you this. It behoves us to be aware and constantly vigilant about anyone or anybody who is collecting information about us. I personally worry about the Government and in your country the FBI and CIA and other agencies we don't even know about.

But you have absolutely no evidence of any wrong doing on Google's part. That doesn't mean we shouldn't what them, but it does mean that you are spreading a lot of accusations and and innuendos today that are totally unsubstantiated and unsupported. You haven't got one iota of evidence. Your case would never even make it to a court of law. They would throw you in jail for malicous prosecution.